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Old 12-22-2011, 02:49 PM   #31
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Dont be afraid to post pics here as well....us chassis guys like to see things too!
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could it be brutus maybe......is this kinda like where's waldo?
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could it be brutus maybe......is this kinda like where's waldo?
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:29 PM   #34
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Maintenance Welding Rod:

Certanium 707 is such a welding rod.
It is similar to 312 stainless but my analysis showed a much higher Chromium content.
The tests I had run indicated a chromium content of around 40%.
312 stainless arc welding rods have about 30% chromium and 9% nickel and the rest is mostly iron.
But Maintenance welding electrode manufacturers are not bound by AWS specifications and if they discover that an extra 10% chromium helps the rod weld better, crack less, and makes a stronger weld, then by gosh they will add it.
In fact , they are free to add frog legs, sawdust, and pig testicles if they want to.
Other welding electrodes similar to Certanium 707 are:
Eutectic 680, American filler metals Patriarc, All State 275, MG 600, Inweld 955, UTP 65, Welco Supermissileweld, and Rockmont Brutus A.

The cool thing about maintenance rods is that they work.


They are not bound by AWS or UNS tolerances for chemical composition so if they discover that a little more of this or that works better for welding thru rust or coatings, then they can add it and not get spanked for not complying with a AWS specs.
Besides, Maintenance Welding rod makers are very tight lipped on the exact composition of their maintenance welding rods anyway.

When they find a recipe that works and that welders like, they keep it a big secret.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:34 PM   #35
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coat hanger? .. non coated
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:34 PM   #36
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Speaking of secrets...

some maintenance welding rods are not much different than 312 or 309 stainless welding electrodes. In fact, since they wont say whats in them, what is to keep a company from buying some 312 stainless rods and labeling them with some exotic name like Neptune Astro and charging 10 times as much?

I have heard from some welders that some suppliers charge as much as 100 dollars a pound for Certanium 707.
309 and 312 are way cheaper...like around 20 bucks a pound..sometimes less.
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After speaking with rockmount it confirms my thoughts. A swell as this link confirms most rods are repackaged and renamed. Hot Rod is for Hot Rods

http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/...ar-metals.html

So who uses this stuff and how has it held up in a wreck?
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:20 PM   #38
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would it pass if i told him it was stainless rod? good question i dont know, he didnt ask but he did say it looked nice and appeared to be supermissle, i said i guess so. i didnt know what rod was used at the time and i didnt have a clue what supermissle was.
i asked our northeast tech guy that about a year ago his name is doug... he pulled his NHRA binder out flipped to the back and said NO. NHRA allows er70s-2/ 70s-6. er80s-2/80s6 ..... so yeah if you told the tech guy and he is worth a damn and cares about the sport he would have passed it
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Maintenance Welding Rod:

Certanium 707 is such a welding rod.
It is similar to 312 stainless but my analysis showed a much higher Chromium content.
The tests I had run indicated a chromium content of around 40%.
312 stainless arc welding rods have about 30% chromium and 9% nickel and the rest is mostly iron.
But Maintenance welding electrode manufacturers are not bound by AWS specifications and if they discover that an extra 10% chromium helps the rod weld better, crack less, and makes a stronger weld, then by gosh they will add it.
In fact , they are free to add frog legs, sawdust, and pig testicles if they want to.
Other welding electrodes similar to Certanium 707 are:
Eutectic 680, American filler metals Patriarc, All State 275, MG 600, Inweld 955, UTP 65, Welco Supermissileweld, and Rockmont Brutus A.

The cool thing about maintenance rods is that they work.


They are not bound by AWS or UNS tolerances for chemical composition so if they discover that a little more of this or that works better for welding thru rust or coatings, then they can add it and not get spanked for not complying with a AWS specs.
Besides, Maintenance Welding rod makers are very tight lipped on the exact composition of their maintenance welding rods anyway.

When they find a recipe that works and that welders like, they keep it a big secret.

I do a lot of tool steel welding on injection molds and punch press dies UTP 65 is a life saver when repairing damaged dies!!!!!!
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i asked our northeast tech guy that about a year ago his name is doug... he pulled his NHRA binder out flipped to the back and said NO. NHRA allows er70s-2/ 70s-6. er80s-2/80s6 ..... so yeah if you told the tech guy and he is worth a damn and cares about the sport he would have passed it
sorry i ment to put....he would NOT
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sounds like some one got ass fucked by king kong with no lube while king kongs buddy face fucked you so hard you were unable to breath... that would explain why you pulled your car out of a real shop and took it to a date rape chop shop.
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So ur saying they used the 707 for filler to tig ur cage ?
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sounds like some one got ass fucked by king kong with no lube while king kongs buddy face fucked you so hard you were unable to breath... that would explain why you pulled your car out of a real shop and took it to a date rape chop shop.

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sounds like some one got ass fucked by king kong with no lube while king kongs buddy face fucked you so hard you were unable to breath... that would explain why you pulled your car out of a real shop and took it to a date rape chop shop.
I need a Dave Bowman face mask! That way when i roll in a shop I'll get my cock sucked instead getting it stuck in my ass
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I do a lot of tool steel welding on injection molds and punch press dies UTP 65 is a life saver when repairing damaged dies!!!!!!
is it a life saver welding cages

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Interesting NHRA spec's for chromoly ER70/80 ?


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So ur saying they used the 707 for filler to tig ur cage ?
At this point Yes some variation of it. Its full of chromium
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