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Old 07-13-2011, 07:14 PM   #121
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So your implying that Procharger just went ahead and told him where to improve things. You know this how?
I think Dan maybe knows the guy who designed the F2...

Funny thing is we developed the first bellmouths for the D-3's over 10 years ago and saw similar gains (3-4 psi and 140hp or something along those lines from just funneling the air in clenaly). It seems everybody has forgotten stuff we knew a long time ago....
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:35 PM   #122
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it seems procharger would get off their ass & update/ modify existing blowers all the while getting the f4 to the general population. if this seems negative so be it. steve should buy them out and rename the company.

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Old 07-13-2011, 08:05 PM   #123
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I am pretty sure steve does not need any help but I am planning on calling him soon to see if he can help me with a few issues I am having

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Old 07-13-2011, 08:17 PM   #124
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Hey Steve, what fuel do you dyno with? GREAT work...I loved watching the videos...send us more
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I'd like to have one of those for my F1R!!!

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I think Dan maybe knows the guy who designed the F2...

Funny thing is we developed the first bellmouths for the D-3's over 10 years ago and saw similar gains (3-4 psi and 140hp or something along those lines from just funneling the air in clenaly). It seems everybody has forgotten stuff we knew a long time ago....
Everything seems easy after the fact . If Procharger knew that there was this much potential with a bellmouth then they should have done more marketing for theirs . The bellmouths Procharger sells seems good for about 40 to 50 HP . One thing Procharger did not seem to know is the internal mods and the performance gains that could be had . Its sad that Jim Summers passed on as he sure seemed to be on top of the development with Procharger when he did the Pro 5.0 . After he got ill it seemed that Procharger did not advance much with their R&D except for the F4 which 99 % of the racers wont be able to use . Thankfully Steve Morris is making the advancements Procharger is dropping the ball with . Advancements for the average joe to utilize .
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So what is the possibilty here? A F2 with these mods can make more power than a F3...because it can flow the same air with less HP to power it?
A 472 Hemi that needs to make 2000 HP...at 7500...will now need what blower set up? What Carb, what gasoline? I am very interested
I will tell you in a month, I am putting a really nice 632 Big Chief engine together with a F2 on it. Should be interesting. later we will swap out to the F3 bu will initially run it with the Pro-Volute F2
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Everything seems easy after the fact . If Procharger knew that there was this much potential with a bellmouth then they should have done more marketing for theirs . The bellmouths Procharger sells seems good for about 40 to 50 HP . One thing Procharger did not seem to know is the internal mods and the performance gains that could be had . Its sad that Jim Summers passed on as he sure seemed to be on top of the development with Procharger when he did the Pro 5.0 . After he got ill it seemed that Procharger did not advance much with their R&D except for the F4 which 99 % of the racers wont be able to use . Thankfully Steve Morris is making the advancements Procharger is dropping the ball with . Advancements for the average joe to utilize .
well said.. keep pushing steve!
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how will this effect bell design from procharger? if say procharger wanted to go with a larger bell would this be trade mark/ licensing infringement?
I dont think PC has any intentions to make a large belled blower. I dont think there is any conflict.
Dart cylinder heads does not care if I port their heads, pretty much the same thing I am modifying their blower and instead of keeping it all to myself as if I was just a racer only. I am marketing it to people who would like it. Since no one but one person has mine Pro-Volute and only one person has seen it I think some criticism is a bit unfair. I do not and will not tell you I am the best, know the most or even have the perfect un-improvable product, I learn from testing this stuff. After all your computer was outdated when you bought it, no body knows it all if they did no one would ever go faster.
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Extrude hone will not do what needs to be done to the volute the bell mouth looks very nice steve
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Once a CNC programme has been set it should be able to do each one the same but the extrude hone is an idea. Its not as good as machining but better than finish cast.

I also hope Steve has some patent of the shape as someone is bound to copy it in a cheap glass fibre version which after all this development wouldnt be right.
Working on it, but copys will happen.
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Since Steve has be gracious enough to share all that he has for everyone.....maybe you guys (Schoneck and Junior) should call Steve and share your 'mods' with Steve so this thing is absolutely as good as it can be. Assuming it might be something Steve doesn't already know....

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I am pretty sure steve does not need any help but I am planning on calling him soon to see if he can help me with a few issues I am having
Shoot, if I knew what you were doing my stuff would be better for sure.
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it seems procharger would get off their ass & update/ modify existing blowers all the while getting the f4 to the general population. if this seems negative so be it. steve should buy them out and rename the company.


other way around I wish they would buy me out, I cant afford DW's car let alone the company
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I think Dan maybe knows the guy who designed the F2...

Funny thing is we developed the first bellmouths for the D-3's over 10 years ago and saw similar gains (3-4 psi and 140hp or something along those lines from just funneling the air in clenaly). It seems everybody has forgotten stuff we knew a long time ago....
Your right the bell is a big part of it, I will share more info as it comes along including CFM numbers. We have been working on different bell shapes and designs for months now and I will keep on it. i am still testing internal mods too. Weld, epoxy you name it.
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Thank you for answering my questions Steve....I am Very interested....in this development...Do you guys sell a drive that will bolt on to the front of the HEMI...like a 68 Hemi?.....Not old..like Hot heads...not new...like SRT...but the Nascar style Hemi...
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