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Old 11-02-2010, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default New Regulations For Vehicles With GVWR of 10,001 to 26k

Is this a re-post? Sorry if it is.. This is really going to open a can of worms. Rules are rules. We can't fight, just have to abide, but man it's going to suck.. It is truck and trailer weight, combined..


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New Regulations For Vehicles With GVWR of 10,001 to 26,000 lbs.
The Public Utilities Commsission (PUCO) has recently revised its rules for motor carrier transportation safety. The newly revised rules extend PUCO’s jurisdiction to regulate vehicle safety to vehicles that are operating on a not-for-hire basis within the state with a GVWR of 10,001 to 26,000 pounds.
Active enforcement of the revised rules will not begin until January 1, 2011. No forfeitures or monetary penalties will be issued until this date unless violations are egregious. PUCO and the Ohio State Patrol have been instructed to use these inspections as opportunities to educate the driver/carrier.
The following is a summary of the requirements if the GVWR is 10,001 or more:
o Drivers must have a medical certificate (NO CDL IS REQUIRED)
o The truck or van must have company marking on each door
o Fire extinguisher must be accessible and secured
o Annual vehicle inspection
o Vehicle equipment must be in proper working order
o Maintenance records must be maintained
o Must maintain $1 million of insurance when hauling vehicles
o When motor vehicles are hauled there are special requirements for securing the load that must be followed
o A driver qualification file must be maintained – including the application for hire and the medical certificate
o Log books must be maintained, unless:
o If the vehicle(s) is within 150 miles of the business no log book needs to be maintained IF
o The driver returns to the work reporting location and is released from work within 12 consecutive hours;
o The driver does not drive more than 11 hours;
o The driver must have at least 10 hours off between 12 hour shifts; and
o The company maintains and retains for a period of 6 months accurate time records.
If my vehicle has a GVWR of 10,001 or more and crosses state lines to make pick ups or deliveries, what else must be done?
o The vehicle must have a USDOT number if the vehicle crosses state lines
o The application for a USDOT number will require a safety audit from the PUCO
o Information on obtaining a USDOT number may be found at www.fmcsa.dot.gov
How can I assure that my company’s vehicles do not fall under these new rules?
o Ensure your vehicle GVWR is less than 10,001 pounds if possible. HOWEVER, BE SURE THAT ANY LOAD DOES NOT EXCEED THE VEHICLE’S LOAD CAPACITY!
o If you are using a truck and trailer combination to move cars or motorcycles/APV’s you may not be able to avoid these new rules as the GVWR of the truck and trailer must be less than 10,001 pounds.
Vehicles and drivers that are found to be in noncompliance can be pulled from service on the spot. Additionally, monetary fines may be issued by PUCO. Active enforcement will begin January 1, 2011.
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:14 PM   #2
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Ohio is the only state where I've seen truckers being cited and pulled out of their trucks while at a REST AREA!!! ... worst state to get popped ,Florida and California are close by .

20 years without a major accident or safety violation but BS like this will discourage good truckers like myself and others and Penalizes NOW apparently people in RV's or joe schmoe in a truck & single car hauler to the EXTREME!!

This is bogus so the state can generate revenue.
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Great. More shit to worry about.
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FUCK OHIO I wish the state would sink and make the next GREAT LAKE!!!
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VOTE EM OUT!!!!! hope you all did the right thing today! Time to sell your dually and hire a contract carrier to haul your race car to the track!
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:56 PM   #6
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Something had to be done with all the large rigs pulling race cars,not just anyone with a regular license should be qualified to drive a vehicle that weighs 26000 lbs.These are some serious "what if vehicles".
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:57 PM   #7
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VOTE EM OUT!!!!! hope you all did the right thing today! Time to sell your dually and hire a contract carrier to haul your race car to the track!
I always avoided Ohio when towing, only place I ever got chased down by a state trooper towing a 24' enclosed with a pickup truck for avoiding a weigh station, well them and North Carolina and I avoided NC as well.

Lot of fuel/hotels and food that I never bought there..
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Old 11-02-2010, 11:59 PM   #8
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I always avoided Ohio when towing, only place I ever got chased down by a state trooper towing a 24' enclosed with a pickup truck for avoiding a weigh station, well them and North Carolina and I avoided NC as well.

Lot of fuel/hotels and food that I never bought there..
Why would you avoid and why would they pull you over ,your not required in Ohio to pull in unless your a motor carrier over a certian weight?
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:03 AM   #9
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a similar law allready exists in other states.

26,000 pounds has been the standard for a long time.
many vehicles are overloaded and the driver thinks that he is driving a god damn jap car -toyota that is empty.

there are just too many overloaded two axle and three axle trailers that are not pulled with the proper rated truck...
and many of them same fuckheads dont like to wait in line when the traffic gets slow.!!!!!!
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Why would you avoid and why would they pull you over ,your not required in Ohio to pull in unless your a motor carrier over a certian weight?
Ask the cop, I didnt avoid it, I just drove by it and didnt pull in, was going like 55mph and he pulled right on my ass and ddint even see him for a few miles. Never pulled into a weigh station in my life and I have been from NJ to Las Vegas.

Had me on the side of the road for an hour because the guy didnt know anything about Tennessee trailer license plates and had to get a hold of someone in TN. Plus he ran the VIN number on the race car to make sure it was mine and I wasnt transporting it for money.

Same thing happened to me in NC as well, cop said since I had 6000lb axles on my trailer I needed a commercial license. Finaly the guys supervisor came and let me go on my way. This is with a 2500HD SRW pickup and a normal height 24' enclosed trailer with no lettering. Maybe they just dont like black trucks/trailers
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:23 AM   #11
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there have been lots of various posts on this site about this for the last two years.....

the long standing rule is that YOU HAVE TO BE LEGAL in the state that the registration tags are IN / FROM...

they have no mannor to make you fit into or abide a regulation in a state that you are not registered in...

but as said, I dunno why all you idiots want to pull a large over 10,000 pound tag rated trailer with a tiny pickup truck.

they have the ability to harass you all that they want..and tie you up for a day if they god damn feel like it.

.........not much that you can do about it.
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there have been lots of various posts on this site about this for the last two years.....

the long standing rule is that YOU HAVE TO BE LEGAL in the state that the registration tags are IN / FROM...

they have no mannor to make you fit into or abide a regulation in a state that you are not registered in...

but as said, I dunno why all you idiots want to pull a large over 10,000 pound tag rated trailer with a tiny pickup truck.

they have the ability to harass you all that they want..and tie you up for a day if they god damn feel like it.

.........not much that you can do about it.

I had 6K axles to get 8 lug wheels so I didnt have to blow 225/15 STs every two months.

And a 2500HD is by no means a tiny pickup, trailer loaded only weighed 8000lbs.

They said I had the wrong plates on the trailer, which I didnt. Data plate on the trailer said 10K lb GVW, but the axles were 6000lb.
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Looks like I avoid Ohio at all costs if I am pulling my OPEN trailer with a car on it. Just have to take 275 around Cincy, instead of through, plus an IN backroad, to get to I74 towards Indy to go back home to MI. My wife's Avalanche, trailer, 3k# car, and gear/people will put me over 10k.

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but as said, I dunno why all you idiots want to pull a large over 10,000 pound tag rated trailer with a tiny pickup truck.

they have the ability to harass you all that they want..and tie you up for a day if they god damn feel like it.

.........not much that you can do about it.
Get of your fucking soap box asshole....
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I will just climb up on another stacked milkcrate.


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it makes no matter if the trailer is empty or not.

the "tag" weight is what it is registered as being, and if combined weight is more than what the PUNEY HD2500
truck is suppose to carry,..then you are illlegal...

once again, it does not matter if the trailer and /or truck is empty.......

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