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Old 10-20-2010, 10:21 PM   #1
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06 Dodge Truck + Dead Battery = Major Electrical Problems My partner left the radar detector plugged in for over a week in our work truck and the battery died. He jumped it off and it started fine. He drove about an hour and picked me up and I noticed all the dash lights were on and the transmission would not shift. The transmission stays in drive and will not kick down or go into OD. The four wheel drive will not engage. We took the truck to a local mechanic and he couldn't get the scanner to sync with the truck. We took it to a local dealer and a few hours later they call and want us to take it to another dealer since they can not figure out whats wrong. Said one of two modules may be bad and there scanner was not able to read accurately. WTF is wrong with this truck? Anybody got any guesses? I'm stumped!
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:27 PM   #2
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there's has to be more to it than a dead battery. did he jump it with the cables reversed? does it have a new battery? get a new battery before anything if you havent already. voltage problems can cause some crazy stuff, though.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:50 PM   #3
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Dealer asked if he jumped it with cables reversed. He said he didn't and if he did, wouldn't sparks have tipped him off it was wrong? The truck started and has started every time since. Battery is original to the truck and mileage is 55,000+- We removed cables and tried to clear codes and re-boot and still have all and I mean all the lights and warnings lit on the dash. I and my buddy the mechanic have never seen anything like this.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:15 PM   #4
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I'm sure you probably tried it but if not when the battery is unhooked touch the two cables together.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:23 PM   #5
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Take it to a real dealer. What kind of dealer says take it to another dealer? A worthless one!

We have one up the road that pulls the same shit.
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I'm sure you probably tried it but if not when the battery is unhooked touch the two cables together.

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Old 10-20-2010, 11:38 PM   #7
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It sounds like it may have lost BUS communication causing the trans to go into limp mode. The TIPM or underhood fuse box could have a issue. This is not uncommon. Smell it. Sometimes they smell like they once got hot when they fail.

It also could be something else. Any dealer with a good drivability guy can figure it out.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:41 PM   #8
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If the battery was that dead, it is possible that the jump start cleared the computer. Is the odometer working???? If not, it may need the VIN reprogrammed in the computer. If thats the case, I'm surprised it will even run.

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If the battery was that dead, it is possible that the jump start cleared the computer. Is the odometer working???? If not, it may need the VIN reprogrammed in the computer. If thats the case, I'm surprised it will even run.

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so theres no eprom involved there?

or is it just cleared of the access to that eprom?
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A 06 ram has a NGC controller. Any DTC it has will not be cleared from a battery disconnect. The vin is also stored in a few other modules. TIPM, PCM,and WCM all store the vin in this vehicle if I'm not mistaken.

There may be more to this story than we know or its possible the dead battery issue is not even related. Chrysler products have issues with modules and wireing.

I wonder if the cluster displays a "no bus" message with the key on or while running.
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A 06 ram has a NGC controller. Any DTC it has will not be cleared from a battery disconnect..
Not true, stored codes will clear with a battery disconnect. Sounds like he has active faults. Stored faults will clear with a battery disconnect, active will not.


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The vin is also stored in a few other modules. TIPM, PCM,and WCM all store the vin in this vehicle if I'm not mistaken.

There may be more to this story than we know or its possible the dead battery issue is not even related. Chrysler products have issues with modules and wireing.

I wonder if the cluster displays a "no bus" message with the key on or while running.

The best thing for this guy to do is get in contact with a dealer that knows how to use a STAR Scan or Star Mobile, check the vehicle Network Topology and see if any modules are offline. Then have them run a vehicle scan report and try to pinpoint where the issue is. I'm sure there is YB member who can analyze the Vehicle Scan Report
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Not true, stored codes will clear with a battery disconnect. Sounds like he has active faults. Stored faults will clear with a battery disconnect, active will not.





The best thing for this guy to do is get in contact with a dealer that knows how to use a STAR Scan or Star Mobile, check the vehicle Network Topology and see if any modules are offline. Then have them run a vehicle scan report and try to pinpoint where the issue is. I'm sure there is YB member who can analyze the Vehicle Scan Report


sooo what your saying is..............





its most likely not a bad carb?????



holy hell why do companies make cars so dependant on electronics now!!


pretty soon cars wont be able to run without booting up first
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sooo what your saying is..............
its most likely not a bad carb?????
holy hell why do companies make cars so dependant on electronics now!!
pretty soon cars wont be able to run without booting up first
with the technology out now, think of whats in the works for 5 years from now. with throttle by wire, brake by wire, lane managment, in not too long cars will be driving them selves.
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with the technology out now, think of whats in the works for 5 years from now. with throttle by wire, brake by wire, lane managment, in not too long cars will be driving them selves.

and hopefully fixing themselves..

someone asked to me to take a look at theyre hybrid honda the other day



i told em now fucken way am i putting my hands on that shit-im not gonna be shocked to death by a car
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:45 AM   #15
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I did not get back in town in time to pick up the truck yesterday. I'll pick it up today and try to decide what to do or where to take it after we speak with the local dealer. The local dealer is a multi brand dealer selling mostly GM vehicles and Dodge Trucks.

Got my curiosity peaking about suggestions of touching the cables together after battery disconnect. What would this do to help solve the problem? Thanks for the suggestions and replies.
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