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Old 10-20-2010, 08:14 PM   #1
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Default Real Lead Additive? for model A ford

Anyone know where lead additive can be bought to mix with pump gas to run in a Model "A" Ford engine. Or something else that works in place of it.

I told him to run some race fuel with his pump gas but he wants the real deal if possible.

Trying to help a friend find somewhere to get it. That is if it can even be sold anymore with all the EPA bullshit.

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Old 10-30-2010, 05:51 PM   #2
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thre is still gas terminals in richmond va that sells gas without ethanol but have to buy it thru a dealer
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:12 PM   #3
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Try a Guy named Steve Podell in South Bend Ind. Known for being the guy for early rochester fuel injection for corvettes. Used to sell and advertise an additive for early vettes and cars requiring lead.
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Model Aís were designed to run on unleaded gas with lower octane than todayís regular. Thatís why the driver has the spark advance lever at the steering wheel. Unless you are going to tow a trailer with it, what is the worry? They have insert valve seats. A little 2-stroke oil (TC-W) will lube the guides if that is the concern. Plenty of Model Aís were run on kerosene during the depression and WW2.
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Model Aís were designed to run on unleaded gas with lower octane than todayís regular. Thatís why the driver has the spark advance lever at the steering wheel. Unless you are going to tow a trailer with it, what is the worry? They have insert valve seats. A little 2-stroke oil (TC-W) will lube the guides if that is the concern. Plenty of Model Aís were run on kerosene during the depression and WW2.

I was under the impression that the valve seats are part of the heads from the factory,(Unless machined for hardened seats by the owner) and needed the lead to keep from pounding the valves and head seats out.

But i under stand what you are saying.

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I was under the impression that the valve seats are part of the heads from the factory,(Unless machined for hardened seats by the owner) and needed the lead to keep from pounding the valves and head seats out.

But i under stand what you are saying.

Thanks Brandon.
should be a flathead with valvseats in the block. As pointed out they originally ran on unleaded.
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Old 10-31-2010, 01:05 PM   #7
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the seats are in the BLOCK,

just as like any flathead engine


normally there are no pressed in "seats" as we know today,
but after 90 years, many have indeed been replaced with an insert.
the original stock valves have wear issues with todays pump gas AND off the shelf oil....

we use low octane pump gas and add "inseadolead" or a half gallon of leadded race gas .
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Old 10-31-2010, 01:08 PM   #8
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you should be concerned with the oil that you are using
especially since the early 4 bangers (modelT) did not have an actual bearing insert for the camshaft to run in..it was just a hole in the cast iron block.
...unless of course it has been updated......

lots of then allready make a signature knock from loose cam in the tunnel....
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:40 PM   #9
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Thanks for the info guys.

As i said before i was trying to help a friend find an answer for his model A, and i know not a dam thing about the old stuff or what he has for seat's or bearings, but i will pass the info along.

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carden machine 678-613-0516 model A and T is his business. second generation machinst. robert carden
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