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Old 09-25-2010, 01:01 PM   #46
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The 10.5 cars need to be much closer to "street cars" as well as being "street appearing". Many of the execption we have make in 8.90 should not be made in 10.50.
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The 10.5 cars need to be much closer to "street cars" as well as being "street appearing". Many of the execption we have make in 8.90 should not be made in 10.50.
Amen, we don't want to scare away the casual racers with the wrong vibe in this class.
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You mean bull horns? Nah I think that's too far out for street "appearing" Mr Z is at the limit for exhaust exit.
I'm prolly gonna move mine under the body this winter anyhow, they drag alot getting in an out of the trailer an that style is getting old for me. They do have mufflers though an still will next year.
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I'm prolly gonna move mine under the body this winter anyhow, they drag alot getting in an out of the trailer an that style is getting old for me. They do have mufflers though an still will next year.
leave it alone that thing sounds sweet.
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It'll still sound the same, just gonna turn em under an tuck em up a bit. You should have heard it before the mufflers were put on, you'da thought it was 800inchs under the hood.
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What did that 33 willys weight???
I believe it weighs around 2600 lbs. Original steel body.Except for tilt frt. end. Aftermarket frame for safety since you can safely race an original willys frame. It still has a bell drop front axle. This particular car in question is regularly driven to this guys work on pump gas.
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I believe it weighs around 2600 lbs. Original steel body.Except for tilt frt. end. Aftermarket frame for safety since you can safely race an original willys frame. It still has a bell drop front axle. This particular car in question is regularly driven to this guys work on pump gas.
i was not going to say anything about it charlie but since you brought it up, that 2600 lb chassis car, aftermarket chassis, pump gas motor, beat out my 3,600 lb 540 cubic in motor because the car is so light, if not for the miss fortune of a couple of cars being broke after qualifying i would not have made the 16, that being said, these light cars should not be allowed to race this class it seems like we are bending the rules for everyone, is it a nice car yes, is he a nice guy yes, is it an aftermarket frame yes, is it 2600lb yes the frame dont bother me, the 2600lb does.
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Amen, we don't want to scare away the casual racers with the wrong vibe in this class.
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Would my car still fit the rules for the 10.50 class?

Thanks Mark.
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I think the street appearing rule should be emphasized how many street cars you see with fender exit exhaust and huge forward mount pro stock style hood scoops. now as of the chassis cars like droptop57's great additions but like denny said why beat the hell out of my shit to run against a 2500 lb pump gas deal. i think that would turn away a lot of people. the one time weight cert deal sounds like a good idea or like mr z said have scales there if there is a car questionable put them on it. running at other tracks great idea, get some of these others into the heads up racing. by the sounds of it theres people making changes to there cars (myself included) or have already made changes to fit the rules you have so i would not go changing alot. jmo.
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Denny, unfortately not all body styles are alike and some can be lighter and we knew this going into this season and we accepted that risk, coupled with the fact that TRP has no scales makes our life tough. We have no weight rule currently so no rules were bent and its illegal to add more than [I think] 150lbs of removable ballast. We hate the thought of writing rules that eliminate certain body styles and we don't want to make a person add illegal ballast. This is a fine line thats tough to balance.

We do know this, there will be no tube chassis vehicles under 3k
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Would my car still fit the rules for the 10.50 class?

Thanks Mark.
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Tom can us 10.50 guys use air or electric shifters?

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I think the street appearing rule should be emphasized how many street cars you see with fender exit exhaust and huge forward mount pro stock style hood scoops. now as of the chassis cars like droptop57's great additions... ...running at other tracks great idea, get some of these others into the heads up racing. by the sounds of it theres people making changes to there cars (myself included) or have already made changes to fit the rules you have so i would not go changing alot. jmo.
My personal feeling on appearance of the 8.90 class should look like a mix of PRO/STREET and SUPER/STREET from the mid-90's. Cowl hoods should be the standard, however even back then they weren't, roots blower cars cant fit them and neither can some tunnel ram set-ups. MOPAR had some great looking foward facing scoops from the factory so outlawing them isn't really an option.

Racers need to refine to make the class as a whole look better and not try to do as little as they can just to fit in.
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Tom can us 10.50 guys use air or electric shifters?

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Denny, unfortately not all body styles are alike and some can be lighter and we knew this going into this season and we accepted that risk, coupled with the fact that TRP has no scales makes our life tough. We have no weight rule currently so no rules were bent and its illegal to add more than [I think] 150lbs of removable ballast. We hate the thought of writing rules that eliminate certain body styles and we don't want to make a person add illegal ballast. This is a fine line thats tough to balance.

We do know this, there will be no tube chassis vehicles under 3k
how about no cars under 3000 lbs, not much diff, in that willys and some chassis cars.
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