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Old 07-23-2010, 09:22 PM   #91
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350 what head? I got a set of those too.....
BMF 355 ya jackass
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385 to be more precise.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:28 PM   #93
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What about 1hp per cid over the 525? That is deffinately possible. The 525 bbc with the 355 head made 1176 with a 1150 carb and c-25. The big carb is worth 5 and the fuel is 12. So you got 18hp with 52"?? What did it average in the power band compared to the 525? When I went from a 477 to a 525 I picked up around 35 peak but 62 average.
Not sure on the average numbers at the moment but at peak my 577ci made 1209hp. That is with a 1250 2.125" carb and Q16. The only differences with my motor from a 525 would be a non billet crank and an internal oil pump. So I guess you are right, 18hp for 52ci, give or take a few ponies for the oil pump. That is with 385ish cc Brodix heads too. I would be real surprised to see much over 1250hp outa a 632 with conv. heads

I really do not want to argue about the rules since I have never yet ran in the class but I want to make sure things are kept real in regards to the capability of conventional heads.
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385 to be more precise.
Not on an nmca pro stock motor... ya jackass
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Not sure on the average numbers at the moment but at peak my 577ci made 1209hp. That is with a 1250 2.125" carb and Q16. The only differences with my motor from a 525 would be a non billet crank and an internal oil pump. So I guess you are right, 18hp for 52ci, give or take a few ponies for the oil pump. That is with 385ish cc Brodix heads too. I would be real surprised to see much over 1250hp outa a 632 with conv. heads

I really do not want to argue about the rules since I have never yet ran in the class but I want to make sure things are kept real in regards to the capability of conventional heads.
Did Tony do the heads from scratch or did he work on what someone else started?
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Did Tony do the heads from scratch or did he work on what someone else started?
Everything was done from scratch by Tony. We used my valvecovers, belt drive and vacuum pump from my previous motor.
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Not on an nmca pro stock motor... ya jackass

Oh my bad John.... You can go back to asking if your engine is a small block or big block.... smarty. And I would suggest you keep your name calling to yourself.
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And how is that? Is there several BBC conventional headed cars about to show? Is this a qualified 16 car field? Does that mean the few small block guys that were showing up will now become non qualifiers? Yes, interesting development..........
Ben I can't speak for anyone but me. I don't think this significantly
changes who are the hitters are in the class. Nor do I think it will lead
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Oh my bad John.... You can go back to asking if your engine is a small block or big block.... smarty. And I would suggest you keep your name calling to yourself.
Didn't you ever see the movie happy gilmore?
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No I have not... I'm a little sheltered.
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No I have not... I'm a little sheltered.
Rent it and then you will understand my comment... ya jackass
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We have a near 600 inch BES conventional engine coming that makes 1225, the 525 is not a concern. Dave Theisen is coming and his 598 is making around 1175. Should be good racing.
If those combination's are not running with the fastest cars in the class weighing only 3150 lbs there will be something very, very wrong........
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If those combination's are not running with the fastest cars in the class weighing only 3150 lbs there will be something very, very wrong........
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What should be faster, 1400hp @ 3300lbs or 1225hp @ 3150lbs?
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What should be faster, 1400hp @ 3300lbs or 1225hp @ 3150lbs?
How about comparing either to a 900 or 1000 HP (?) small block that weighs 2900 lbs? I would then say "both".
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