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Old 07-31-2009, 05:15 PM   #1
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Whats up with Q16 leaving stuff if fuel system, I can clean my cell down with nothing in it and add Q16 leave it sit and overnite will be like a gritty subtace at the bottom. So far this year in using 54 gal of q i had to replace my fuel pump and 8 injectors, why?
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:51 PM   #2
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I have a couple of friends this happen to as well?
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Interesting....Your not the only one.
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Cell foam??

One of the NHRA pro stockers lost 2 motors in one day due to to cell foam degredation/rot.
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No foam here.
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I'm not sure but doesn't Q have a small percent of alcohol. that would explain it.
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For some reason it sounds like the lead has fallen out of the fuel. Where did the fuel that you put in the cell come from? Was it out of the drum or sealed can? Or did the fuel sit in a plastic can for a bit before you put it in? If you still have the original drum I'd like the batch number off it. I can tell you if it was a batch problem there would be 100 other drums with issues. This is the first I've heard of this. Normally when the lead falls out it's from a jug that sits in the sun or even under flouresant lights in the trailer or garage. Let me know what you find out. Plus if you can let me know where you bought it from. Thanks.
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I've noticed the M5 does this as well, a lot more so that straight methanol. Are these two fuels perhaps more corrosive to aluminum parts that other fuels?

I've just chalked it up to being more corrosive and since I clean out my entire system after every race, it hasn't been too much of an issue
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For some reason it sounds like the lead has fallen out of the fuel. Where did the fuel that you put in the cell come from? Was it out of the drum or sealed can? Or did the fuel sit in a plastic can for a bit before you put it in? If you still have the original drum I'd like the batch number off it. I can tell you if it was a batch problem there would be 100 other drums with issues. This is the first I've heard of this. Normally when the lead falls out it's from a jug that sits in the sun or even under flouresant lights in the trailer or garage. Let me know what you find out. Plus if you can let me know where you bought it from. Thanks.

it was right out the drum, fuel stays in my shop, non flouresant lights, just looked in my cell crap in the bottom again, I have $1300.00 in fuel system parts already this month. I had new injectors set back to precision turbo and the flow was over 50% of what they should on some. And NO FOAM

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UN/1A1/X1.8/300
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:56 PM   #10
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I have had no issues with M5, all my aluminum is anodized though.

Ran Q16 but only briefly, no issues there as well.

Stuff stays sealed in its original drum, shop is climate contrllloed so may be the difference.
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Jim bought his drums from me. I brought in 5 Drums of Q16 during the load. I havent heard any problems with any of the other drums but sure as hell would like to know if there is problems with that batch so i can inform my customers.

They went right from me, to Jim. No extended periods of sunlight, no early 08 fuel, both seals still on, none of that.
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You should get the Q out of system when you put it to bed. Later J.Smith 4621 racing
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:54 PM   #13
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Default Re: Q 16 leaving crap in fuel cell

I haven't heard of this as I said before. Q doesn't have alcohol in it so that wouldn't explain it. If there was a batch problem, there would be 100 plus racers having a problem, so I don't think it's that. The number I need is on the label. It should say something like 123/09. This would tell me what day in 09 the fuel was made. If you can give me this number and I'll call our chemist on Monday and let you know what I find out.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:57 PM   #14
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Off the top of my head i think that load numbers were 90/09. (late march). I try to mark down/watch every pail and drum that comes in, but i could be wrong.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:20 AM   #15
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I bought 2 drums at the same time, it is sitting in mt fuel cell now with the crap in it, I will bet if i pulled my injectors out thr screens are full of it to. here is a picture of me cleaing the cell again and waisting fuel. I bet i wasted 20 gal already I have to do this every week, But my tractor runs good.

http://s618.photobucket.com/albums/t...nt=fuel006.jpg

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09/USA/M4065
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