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Old 06-05-2017, 03:51 PM   #16
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Everyone gets a trophy Professional drag racing always has and always will be an expensive sport whether you like it or not. Deal with it. There is no such thing as affordable heads up racing period. This is only a problem with a couple of classes in PRRA. NHRA has no problem filling their promod class.
"Professional" drag racing has full fields, like the NHRA. Maybe being around for 50 yrs helps too.
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How long since you been NHRA race?
No many full fields in pro class this year
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Old 06-05-2017, 04:26 PM   #18
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How long since you been NHRA race?
No many full fields in pro class this year PRO MOD?
Never, and that's when they also start to question their own product. The "professional" tag is more important to the racer (sponsors, justification of their expense,ego,etc) then the fans who essentially pay the purse. Having more quality cars on the line is what's important, so why get caught up on an undisputed winner for the night and a best of the rest scenario?
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How long since you been NHRA race?
No many full fields in pro class this year
This last race in Epping had:

14 cars in Pro Stock
15 cars in Top Fuel
16 cars in Funny Car

A total of 45 "professional" cars (whatever in the hell professional means?) total. Period. Not exactly knocking um dead. You might as well call qualifying, "practice for who gets to race who." Everyone races.

And it doesn't stop there. NASCAR has been grossly affected.

In 2004, 8 million people tuned in to NASCAR’s Sprint Cup series. Last year, only 4.6 million did, a decrease of almost half.

Admissions are down 30% since 2010.

Changing culture. Is, what it is.

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Never, and that's when they also start to question their own product. The "professional" tag is more important to the racer (sponsors, justification of their expense,ego,etc) then the fans who essentially pay the purse. Having more quality cars on the line is what's important, so why get caught up on an undisputed winner for the night and a best of the rest scenario?
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This last race in Epping had:

14 cars in Pro Stock
15 cars in Top Fuel
16 cars in Funny Car

A total of 45 "professional" cars (whatever in the hell professional means?) total. Period. Not exactly knocking um dead. You might as well call qualifying, "practice for who gets to race who." Everyone races.

And it doesn't stop there. NASCAR has been grossly affected.

In 2004, 8 million people tuned in to NASCARís Sprint Cup series. Last year, only 4.6 million did, a decrease of almost half.

Admissions are down 30% since 2010.

Changing culture. Is, what it is.

Denny
I was talking specifically about the Promod class in NHRA. Not super stock not prostock just Promod. Who gives a shit how many people attended NASCAR 13 fucking years ago. This forum is about Promod. You retards need to open your eyes.
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Yvonne, Great post about John Force. He has contributed to hundreds of thousands watching the sport not to mention how many folks he employed. Certainly has turn more heads than any person in Drag racing.
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I was talking specifically about the Promod class in NHRA. Not super stock not prostock just Promod. Who gives a shit how many people attended NASCAR 13 fucking years ago. This forum is about Promod. You retards need to open your eyes.
Right. We understand great Obi-Wan Kenobi. I used to watch Frankie Taylor and Jason Scruggs on a typical Pro Mod night at Kennedale. No special race, just once a month Pro Mod racing. Not only do either bother to come here anymore, the track is closed along with two other in the DFW area alone. That's three tracks closing just in the Dallas/Forth Worth area. My best friend was the township attorney for Onondaga Township in Michigan. He put a great deal of effort trying to revive the dragstrip. It is now closed despite his best efforts.

Drag Racing is not what it used to be great one. All racing viewing and attendance is down. The numbers do not lie and only 8 Pro Extreme Pro at the PDRA is also telling. I have pictures of the ADRL in Dallas and Martin. The lanes were full.

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I was talking specifically about the Promod class in NHRA. Not super stock not prostock just Promod. Who gives a shit how many people attended NASCAR 13 fucking years ago. This forum is about Promod. You retards need to open your eyes.
No shit dickhead, your the one that brought up the NHRA car count after stating they had no problem filling their PRO MOD field a couple of posts prior. I'll let you argue the rest with yourself Einstein...
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This last race in Epping had:

14 cars in Pro Stock
15 cars in Top Fuel
16 cars in Funny Car

A total of 45 "professional" cars (whatever in the hell professional means?) total. Period. Not exactly knocking um dead. You might as well call qualifying, "practice for who gets to race who." Everyone races.

And it doesn't stop there. NASCAR has been grossly affected.

In 2004, 8 million people tuned in to NASCARís Sprint Cup series. Last year, only 4.6 million did, a decrease of almost half.

Admissions are down 30% since 2010.

Changing culture. Is, what it is.

Denny
NASCAR's problem isnt society, its the ones that call the shots...NASCAR decided to stop giving a damn about their diehard fans, and started trying to cater to everyone else...They became publicly arrogant, and now they are reaping the rewards...They jumped on the politically correct train, and that didnt sit well with those that would spend every dollar they had just to go to a race and buy some merchandise...

But hey, make the confederate flag an issue, and try your best to put minorities and women into the race cars...The results are speaking for themselves.
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No shit dickhead, your the one that brought up the NHRA car count after stating they had no problem filling their PRO MOD field a couple of posts prior. I'll let you argue the rest with yourself Einstein...
And they don't have a problem with car counts you fucking retard.
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^^^^^ too funny

You should try oval racing.


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How long since you been NHRA race?
No(t) many full fields in pro class this year
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NASCAR's problem isnt society, its the ones that call the shots...NASCAR decided to stop giving a damn about their diehard fans, and started trying to cater to everyone else...They became publicly arrogant, and now they are reaping the rewards...They jumped on the politically correct train, and that didnt sit well with those that would spend every dollar they had just to go to a race and buy some merchandise...

But hey, make the confederate flag an issue, and try your best to put minorities and women into the race cars...The results are speaking for themselves.
Read a little bit about how NASCAR had been mismanaged, but there also appears to be other issues including the economic downturn in 2008, loss of major sponsorship, changes in racing format, the chase viewed as a gimmick, popular drivers retiring, etc. Simply could be a perfect storm of events. My personal problem with NASCAR is it bores the shit out of me and all the cars look the same. Hell, I can never tell who is in front most of the time. Have access to free tickets whenever they are in town and turn them down.

Then............The good ol days of NASCAR:



Now.............

"Once an unstoppable commercial juggernaut that looked like it might surpass professional football in popularity, NASCAR is in retreat. Crews have removed entire sections of the stands at Charlotte, and other tracks have followed suit. Daytona Speedway, which once had seats for 159,000, has cut its capacity to*101,000.From 2007 to 2013 ticket revenue for the two main companies which own NASCAR race tracks dropped by $175 million - or roughly 41 per cent. "

Still say the biggest problem with drag racing is the gray beard issue. Too many gray beards in the stands and no new generation to replace them.


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Read a little bit about how NASCAR had been mismanaged, but there also appears to be other issues including the economic downturn in 2008, loss of major sponsorship, changes in racing format, the chase viewed as a gimmick, popular drivers retiring, etc. Simply could be a perfect storm of events. My personal problem with NASCAR is it bores the shit out of me and all the cars look the same. Hell, I can never tell who is in front most of the time. Have access to free tickets whenever they are in town and turn them down.

Then............The good ol days of NASCAR:

https://youtu.be/ZDDcmz8VMew


Now.............

"Once an unstoppable commercial juggernaut that looked like it might surpass professional football in popularity, NASCAR is in retreat. Crews have removed entire sections of the stands at Charlotte, and other tracks have followed suit. Daytona Speedway, which once had seats for 159,000, has cut its capacity to*101,000.From 2007 to 2013 ticket revenue for the two main companies which own NASCAR race tracks dropped by $175 million - or roughly 41 per cent. "

Still say the biggest problem with drag racing is the gray beard issue. Too many gray beards in the stands and no new generation to replace them.


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What the hell does any of this have to do with the car count in pro extreme and pro boost? If you don't like NASCAR then don't watch it.
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What the hell does any of this have to do with the car count in pro extreme and pro boost? If you don't like NASCAR then don't watch it.
Let me figure this out. You are an asshole. That was easy. Learn some social skills slick.

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While my comments were not aimed at Force or DSR , as dislike or lack of respect, quite the other. They were able to do what they wanted because the rules were not nor are they now in effect to keep the NHRA in check. There was a time that nhra should have seen that one guy owning more then one car per class was going to get you the fuel car show you have now ( boring at best).Drag racing was not and should not be a team sport, If so it becomes a spending race.
It was not that long ago that EVERY town NHRA went to on the schedule had half the field of local fuel cars trying to compete.What stopped that ? How about rolling in with all your buddies and your car and the first thing you see ( because you had to work until the last minute to afford this) is 5 semi's and a technology center all set up ready to conduct some serious ass whoopin. Yeah I would probably leave the car in the trailer too.
What if NFL let one guy own like 5-7 teams and the ability to transfer key people when necessary, how long until it was done. It did not have to go this way with the proper structure...have you ever asked yourself how many pro caliber fuel cars are just sitting around or went alcohol racing not by choice. PDRA has a great thing going they are just going to have to grow with a solid 10-20 year projected growth plan to gain staying power..Or people can just say screw all the sanctions and go have fun at the big one off races that are gaining momentum.
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