Cyl head Gurus

[Mike77z]

Shame up until 2 years ago i had access to a foundry for iron and aluminum , environment canada and politicians fixed that though.

[JeffMcKC]

Originally Posted by SStrokerAce

No brother.... just the only time I have ever seen anyone advertise for a guy as much as you they got a hell of a break on the stuff to do so....

Curtis is a super nice guy, nothing wrong with him. Just never see you make a post that doesn't mention your heads. I have 23° headed guys running your MPH+ at that weight.... I know you say you run faster, don't understand what is so special about 1200 miles later??? If something is down power after that kind of mileage then something ain't right.

If you want to see a post without a engine part ahhhh go to a different section dumb ass.

Curtis has been a HUGE help to me and others from here and steering someone to him with questions is not a bad thing in my eyes, are you saying it is? Then Where is your Problem?

And yes I pay for my parts Phuckstick.

Maybe thats your trick? Its seems in all your post you got a personal problem with someone.

As far as down on power in 1200 miles it shows the fool you are with what I do,1200 miles in a week, kicks the guys out with the really extreme cams, springs and so on the valve train will not take the drive, oil breaks down on a 450 mile day, you can't run the choice gear and converter, so you cant have the perfect combo, send one my way next year, its easy, you can help them. 6 years of it and mine is the only one to ever be in the nines, closest one was a 10.28 to me, one day wonders don't count, you have to make it the Week. Oh yeah, none of those has made it to the nines either. Your right mine is faster than 9.90s too but everybody knows a guy who knows a guy.



Sorry Jusp, and Curtis, I am done responding to Phuckstick. Who wants to turn your thread, and every other one he gets on about someone rather than the thread. Like all little temper tantrums, He did not get enough hugs as a kid.

[SStrokerAce]

Ok Boss.... I guess if all you build is drag motors then that 1200 miles is some sort of feat.... too me not so much. I don't have a personal problem with someone just would like to see some information rather than a advertisement everytime your name comes up in a thread.

[Chris Uratchko]

Lets keep the smart ass comments, name calling and emotion out in another forum. Arguements that are not technical, accusations and slander can happen in private messages, emails, etc... I don't care to read it and I'm sure others don't either.

[Jsup]

Originally Posted by JeffMcKC

If you want to see a post without a engine part ahhhh go to a different section dumb ass.

Curtis has been a HUGE help to me and others from here and steering someone to him with questions is not a bad thing in my eyes, are you saying it is? Then Where is your Problem?

And yes I pay for my parts Phuckstick.

Maybe thats your trick? Its seems in all your post you got a personal problem with someone.

As far as down on power in 1200 miles it shows the fool you are with what I do,1200 miles in a week, kicks the guys out with the really extreme cams, springs and so on the valve train will not take the drive, oil breaks down on a 450 mile day, you can't run the choice gear and converter, so you cant have the perfect combo, send one my way next year, its easy, you can help them. 6 years of it and mine is the only one to ever be in the nines, closest one was a 10.28 to me, one day wonders don't count, you have to make it the Week. Oh yeah, none of those has made it to the nines either. Your right mine is faster than 9.90s too but everybody knows a guy who knows a guy.



Sorry Jusp, and Curtis, I am done responding to Phuckstick. Who wants to turn your thread, and every other one he gets on about someone rather than the thread. Like all little temper tantrums, He did not get enough hugs as a kid.

Hey Jeff, no need to apologize to me, I find all points of view interesting...

[Jsup]

Originally Posted by Chris Uratchko

Lets keep the smart ass comments, name calling and emotion out in another forum. Arguements that are not technical, accusations and slander can happen in private messages, emails, etc... I don't care to read it and I'm sure others don't either.

You've seen my PM box?

[68 nova 10.5]

How did I start this shit?

[JeffMcKC]

Its the Bullet

[mikeyfrombc]

Originally Posted by Chris Uratchko

Lets keep the smart ass comments, name calling and emotion out in another forum. Arguements that are not technical, accusations and slander can happen in private messages, emails, etc... I don't care to read it and I'm sure others don't either.

x2

[cboggs]

Originally Posted by 68 nova 10.5

How did I start this shit?

Trouble maker !!!!!

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[Lafnbowtie]

I have to say, Curtis at RFD will have my business, after my phone calls during this week, he never acted like I was waisting his time or was to busy to help with questions on items/parts that will directly effect the RFD cylinder head and build, was helpful and intersted in my questions to make the best hp from my bullet/class motor.
I called countless engine builders, with no return call but one, engine builds must be many these days,although I know its go time now in the off season,but possibly a call the next day? eh... who needs to sell a motor anyway? LoL.
Anyway, thx again RFD, cant wait for the end result of the build.

[67T56Elky]

Originally Posted by Jsup

First off, I don't do this for a living. I have however studied physics, and listened to professionals who do this and have come to my conclusions. You can't fake physics.

Anyway.... I have a question. You said you just purchased 235s or you are considering 235s. On that basis I have to ask the following:

1. What heads did you have BEFORE getting the 235s? 227s right? What did you have before that? 210s? If so, you'd become quite the revenue stream for AFR.
2. How did you choose those heads?
3. If you need to put new heads on, the 235s, why didn't you just choose the right heads in the first place?

If I could be so forward as to take a guess.

AFR didn't make the 235s at the time, and rather than get Darts or Brodix or anyone else, you were told that you needed AFR XXX, which was whatever they made. Then when they came out with new ones you had to sell your old AFRs and "move up" to the 235s? I mean, if AFR didn't have the right head in the first place, why wouldn't you go to a manufacturer who did?

See, all that happened here, if I am correct, is you wound up buying multiple sets of AFR heads since none of the earlier renditions were right to start with. You were fed this big flow small port bullshit, which changed when they got a bigger head. In other words, the science fit the product, not the other way around.

So, if I am right (and this is typically how it goes), how much cheaper was it really to buy 2 or 3 sets of AFR heads rather than get a set of say Darts or Brodix that would have been right from Day 1? Not to mention all the work. How did that "bang for the buck" argument work out for you when you had to buy 2 sets of heads and install them rather than buy the right head in the first place and just have it worked? Do you feel like you got ripped off? I would.

If someone tells me this is the product you need, because it is the product they have, and I find out later that I need to "move up" to another product they make to do it "right", I would be SOOOO pissed off how they fucked me in the first place I would never buy that product again.

Is this how it kinda went for you? I've seen this unfold time after time and I have to ask, were YOU one of them? You said you had 227s now 235s do you not realize the reason you were pushed to 227s is because there was no 235? They tried to do it to me. Told me all I needed on a 427 was 195s. How ridiculous is that? That's all they had at the time, so that's what I needed. NOW I'd be told I need 235s. So what did that say about the FIRST recommendation? The funny part is the people feeding me this bullshit swore to it then, and will swear to something totally different today.

I ask you this so someone else can learn from your actions. So please elaborate on the point.

This post is so full of BS I dont even know where to start.


The man bought some 220s and wants to turn the wick up on them thats all then you go once again into your anti afr crusade. Good god its been 2 yrs, get over it dude. lol

[RAM Racing Heads]

Sorry way too much effort on cc and flow numbers. Port profile and cross sectional area and seat id per valve size/seating angle is where you are going to build the head to suit. Way too much flow bench gossip......my bench has become a trophy and thats it, doesnt make me a dime, but keeps me from losing any customers who need to feel all warm and fuzzy to know that you have one. 25 years of experience, I know what works, what shapes do and dont, My primary job in the shop is tuning everyone elses stuff, and I have seen it all, every type of bells and whistles known to man. I can kill a head 30 cfm and pick it up 300 rpm and 2 tenths. The manufacturers have used the only tool they can to sell heads and that is 'Flow numbers" it almost becomes impossible to sell someone labor after they have read one Hot Rod magazine.......Truth is "A little bit of knowledge is a terrible thing"

Sorry, just my .02
Rich Maitre
RAM Racing Heads
www.ramracing.us

[Chad Speier]

IMO, a flowbench is the lifeblood for my pitot tube. CC's are a by-product of the proper cross section. Flow is important. Velocity is important. A flowbench is a vital tool for both.

my opinion.

[mikeyfrombc]

from a machinist point a view i see a flow bench as it is a measuring device , flow numbers are the scale , i know very little about porting but do see the bench as a valuable tool to aid in equalizing each port , CCing only gives you a volume of the port which isn,t related to port shape or flow IMO