Planned Parenthood Leader Resigns After Watching Ultrasound of Abortion Procedure!

[Hoosierdaddy]

Originally Posted by RoysVet

Very few higher up mammal babies can live on their own once born, and fetus's have been know to survive as early as 17 weerks!

I don't believe this for a second (the part about surviving at 17 weeks).

[Hoosierdaddy]

Originally Posted by restosteve69

I know the answer, I was just wondering if Hoosier did.

You know what answer. I didn't know there was a question.

[restosteve69]

Originally Posted by Hoosierdaddy

Sure it can. I see where you're going with this so let me back up and clarify what I meant by that. I meant the time at which it can live with medical care like any other person. There comes a time during the progression of a fetus at which point it can be kept alive with medical treatmeant. Prior to that it's a blob of cells that cannot be kept alive with any amount of medical intervention. That is an absolute fact that nobody can dispute. The fact that prior to this point it just happens to look a baby that not quite through cooking is irrelavent.

Let me clarify a couple things, as well. The earliest that doctors feel comfortable taking a baby is six months. I learned this through my friend, who's daughter had cancer while pregnant. If a baby can be taken at six months, it's alive. If it can die, it's alive. Personally, I don't have a problem with abortion until it gets into the later months. The idea of aborting at seven or eight months turns my stomach, and I don't need a bible to tell me to feel that way.

At the same time, i'll support a womans right to an abortion in the earlier months (3-4). It's just my opinion, but it would be nice to find some common groung there.

sorry that took so long. Been watching the news, too.

[Hoosierdaddy]

Originally Posted by restosteve69

Let me clarify a couple things, as well. The earliest that doctors feel comfortable taking a baby is six months. I learned this through my friend, who's daughter had cancer while pregnant. If a baby can be taken at six months, it's alive. If it can die, it's alive.

Oh it's alive before then but doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell at survival before around 5 months. Certain groups in this country believe it's a person with rights as soon as the cum stops squirting out of somebody's dick. That is complete bullshit and something that I have a problem with.

Originally Posted by restosteve69

Personally, I don't have a problem with abortion until it gets into the later months. The idea of aborting at seven or eight months turns my stomach, and I don't need a bible to tell me to feel that way.

At the same time, i'll support a womans right to an abortion in the earlier months (3-4). It's just my opinion, but it would be nice to find some common groung there.

We are both on the same page then. This is exactly how I feel. I also feel that if a woman wants a first abortion, ok. We are all human and make mistakes. This mistake is not something to ruin the rest of someone's life over. If she makes a second mistake well, ok. Third time well, she can have that one too but it must also include manditory tubes being tied or no abortion unless something like rape is involved.

[RRRAAAYYY2]

Originally Posted by Hoosierdaddy

Sure it can. I see where you're going with this so let me back up and clarify what I meant by that. I meant the time at which it can live with medical care like any other person. There comes a time during the progression of a fetus at which point it can be kept alive with medical treatmeant. Prior to that it's a blob of cells that cannot be kept alive with any amount of medical intervention. That is an absolute fact that nobody can dispute. The fact that prior to this point it just happens to look a baby that not quite through cooking is irrelavent.



Many children are born premature at 7 months and survive but 7 months into the term abortions are not legal in my state that I know of. I cannot speak for other states.

I survived at 7 months and that was back in the mid 60's. My niece was under 5 months old when born, and she is doing fine.

[Greg27]

Originally Posted by RRRAAAYYY2

So if I approve of stoning people for a variety of things I deem wrong, you will mind your own business and not say anything?

Invalid argument.
There is no law in the US that legalizes stoning.


Quite honestly I meet several people every week that I believe should be stoned. However, as of yet I haven't stoned one of them and in most cases I don't even share with them what I think their ultimate purpose in life is.
Although, I do think every month, US citizens should be able to stone the politician they pick as the worst politician of month...

[skosler]

Originally Posted by Slow 69 SS

One thing is for sure. If the unborn child can find it's way across the border from another country, it will at least have Subsidized housing, Food stamps, free emergency medical treatment, a really nice cell phone.

never thought of it that way. Very good point. Lets see all the pro baby-killers explain this one, especially the 'true conservatives' or 'libertarians' that are for the baby killing, but against illegal immigration. Anchor babies!

[skosler]

Originally Posted by Hoosierdaddy

I'll tell you when. When it can live on it's own outside the mother like every other person on earth. That's when and not a moment sooner. Anything before that and it's just a blob of cells that should turn into a baby if everything goes right.

Can a one month old live on it's own? Darn, and your arguement sounded so good (to yourself)



These are the nutjobs that want to screw up a lot of shit in this country.
Yeah, you are right.. I want to screw up the fact that a slut who fucks anything and everything without any responsibility can get out easy and kill an innocent child. Abortion on demand is GREAT!!!



The nutjobs I just pointed out are the reason this is true.

Would you volunteer for a retro-active abortion?

[skosler]

hopefully all babies will be able to be killed with a horrible death, so y'all can feel better about the woman's rights. I think the more harsh and horrible the better. Don't y'all agree? You should... it's a woman's right... right?

okay, I done again. See y'all next time!

[Mark O'Neal]

Originally Posted by skosler

Would you volunteer for a retro-active abortion?

Think about that skos.

[bobr]

Originally Posted by skosler

never thought of it that way. Very good point. Lets see all the pro baby-killers explain this one, especially the 'true conservatives' or 'libertarians' that are for the baby killing, but against illegal immigration. Anchor babies!

Funny how the staunchest of anti abortionists seem the most appalled at the welfare system-which is where many of these kids would end up if abortion was illegal.

[skosler]

Originally Posted by bobr

Funny how the staunchest of anti abortionists seem the most appalled at the welfare system-which is where many of these kids would end up if abortion was illegal.

proof?

[bobr]

Originally Posted by skosler

proof?

A personal observation requires no proof. Let's take a poll.

Question 1. Would you like to see abortion made illegal?

Question 2. Would you be willing to sponsor another social system whereas the unwanted babies are supported by the government until they are adopted or are 18 years old?