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Old 02-09-2014, 10:03 PM   #1
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I spent 7 hours, on Saturday, removing a massive ice dam from my back porch. The porch measures 40 foot wide by 20 foot. Once we chipped enough away, It measured 38" thick. With a good 3' of snow on it. We took the snow off with a roof razor. Then used an air chisel to chip away at it. Lucky for me, I have a Daughter-in law(she is 27), that loves walking around on the roof. So, we took turns, with the chisel. I have no idea how much the ice and snow weighed, but from the soreness in my arms from picking it up and throwing it into the back yard. It had to be a lot.
Damn! I hate Winter! Come on Spring.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:09 PM   #2
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I got the same problem. But it's only about 8 inches thick. Pain in the ass!!
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:54 PM   #3
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I've got about 10 inches thick ice over an area of 32 feet.........fuck it I have good insurance......... It's on the second story roof and ain't no way I'm getting up there........it'll be gone by July........
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:16 PM   #4
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I have the same problem. It is actually caused by an attic that isnt vented properly and/or not enough insulation in the attic. Take a peek in your attic and look at the roof decking and rafters, theyll probably be wet with condensation... not good. Fairly easy fix. Ill be doing it this spring when I replace the roof. Ill add some vents and blow in some insulation.
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Get a roof rake. When it snows pull off the first 2-3 feet. No ice dams. Problem with dams is the water cannot drain off the roof and runs back up under the shingles causing roof and or ceiling problems. Roof rakes are available at ACE hardware and will reach onto 2nd floor roofs. Cost about $50.00.
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Get a roof rake. When it snows pull off the first 2-3 feet. No ice dams. Problem with dams is the water cannot drain off the roof and runs back up under the shingles causing roof and or ceiling problems. Roof rakes are available at ACE hardware and will reach onto 2nd floor roofs. Cost about $50.00.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:46 PM   #7
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Get a roof rake. When it snows pull off the first 2-3 feet. No ice dams. Problem with dams is the water cannot drain off the roof and runs back up under the shingles causing roof and or ceiling problems. Roof rakes are available at ACE hardware and will reach onto 2nd floor roofs. Cost about $50.00.
I my post, I mentioned I removed the snow with a roof razor. Much quicker and easier on the roof.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:00 PM   #8
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All the build up was caused when I was in Italy for a month. We had some very nasty storms with alot of snow and high winds out of the West. I usually keep up with removing the snow. The front of the house had very little snow and no ice.
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X10000

Best $25-50 you can spend to keep roof problems down in bad winters like this year.
I made an industrial strength roof rake at work with a 20ft handle...works like a charm.

If possible, it'd be better to upgrade your insulation (unless you have cathedral ceilings).
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I've got over 15" of ice and have been at it with a ice spud, a lot of work.
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I spent 7 hours, on Saturday, removing a massive ice dam from my back porch. The porch measures 40 foot wide by 20 foot. Once we chipped enough away, It measured 38" thick. With a good 3' of snow on it. We took the snow off with a roof razor. Then used an air chisel to chip away at it. Lucky for me, I have a Daughter-in law(she is 27), that loves walking around on the roof. So, we took turns, with the chisel. I have no idea how much the ice and snow weighed, but from the soreness in my arms from picking it up and throwing it into the back yard. It had to be a lot.
Damn! I hate Winter! Come on Spring.
Do you have any pictures...................of your daughter in law????
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They claim properly vented attics dont damn. Is that true?
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:21 AM   #13
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I noticed that keeping the gutters cleaned out helps a lot. But I have also heard that proper venting and insulation works well. So I keep my gutters cleaned out.

I think they sell heaters for your gutters.
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I thought about feeling sorry for you until you mentioned being in Italy for a month.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:29 AM   #15
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Still do not understand why nobody has ever developed heated gutters

Ice dams are caused by heat loss usually up the wall to the attic space above. A well insulated envelope (across the sealing) with adequate ventilation and the problem will be minimal. I would not ever do a roof job though with out 6 feet of snow & ice shield.

Some people put heated wires on roof. You can also throw ice melt up on to the roof to help. You can also put stainless panels for the first 3 feet of the roof back from the eaves
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