cfscs

[Zeke1]

Canadas fastest street car shootout is coming fast only 2 more weeks, there will be a bunch of Windsor cars there and where lookin for more so if you haven't been to it before make plans to go it's a good time, and if you want to race check out the classes on the cfscs site theres 12 classes so everyone fits in somewhere.

There's the regular heads up classes and five index classes but the two that stand out and are the newest are the drag radial and the real street classes and I think we will have 2 or 3 cars in each from Windsor :-D

[9SEC6SPD]

i don't fit into anything that I would be even remotely competitive in. lmao!! go figure.

[Zeke1]

What the hell ya talking about :confused: how about the real street outlaw it's what you allways talk about 20 mile cruise three back to back runs with no wrenching average sets ladder for sunday and them heads up ORRRR put some radials on and lets have at it :-D

[9SEC6SPD]

the catch kieth is NO sheet metal intake! wtf! can't they assess a weight penalty, my race weight is basically 3500 #'s. i will see if i can read the real street outlaw. that does sound good but i didn't notice it in the rules.

i should also be realistic, it is not like i have lots of free time to go racing, ha ha! but if the opportunity presented itself i would love to go!

[TC89LX]

LUCAS OIL REAL STREET OUTLAW RULES

Current Valid Plate/Tag
Current Insurance (don't think we won't know...we'll check it out)
ANY DOT tire
One power adder only permitted ie: nitrous, blower or turbo. Multiple stages of Nitrous would be allowed.
Gasoline only
20 Mile Cruise Mandatory to qualify. No nitrous bottles permitted on cruise
Tire Change, Fuel Fill and bottle install only permitted following cruise
3 back to back Qualifying passes within 45 minutes of cruise (Average of 3 determines ladder)
All run field.

CRUISE ACTIVITY - 20 mile cruise Saturday Morning. This cruise will end directly into the staging lane area. This activity will be escorted, timed and monitored. Should you fail to make the cruise within the allotted time you will be disqualified. There will be a lead and a tail vehicle. If, for any reason, any RSO entry passes the lead or falls behind the tail vehicle, that car entry will be disqualified.

Permitted activities following cruise - Tire Change, Fuel Fill, Bottle Install allowed after cruise while in staging lanes. This activity will be monitored. You will be allowed 1 crew member to assist you while in the lanes.

No tuning/repairs between qualifying rounds.

No towing back to pits after any pass during qualifying or eliminations.

LADDER & TREE - Sportsman ladder. Pro .400 tree. Tuning permitted between elimination rounds.

These rules are 2006 Event Rules and are subject to change. This edition of the rules published on January 18, 2006.

It's pretty much anything goes.

I'm going to see if I can swing this as well. I know I'll get my ass handed to me come sunday but still hope to put down a decent qualifying average on saturday. I just want to say I'm able to do it, I made the cruise just fine at last years but snapped the input shaft of the tranny on the first pass.

[MattG]

I am disapointed that there is no ALL MOTOR class in the CFSC! :(

The only class I fit into is the Nostalgia Super Stock A/FX class which is all motor, 9.50 and under, foot braking, bracket racing. It will still be fun.

[Zeke1]

Tanner there is nothing about sheetmetal intakes for either class this cfscs not the OSCA true street class they have no sheetmetal so for this event your good to go :-D

[memyselfandI]

Canadas fastest street car shootout is coming fast only 2 more weeks, there will be a bunch of Windsor cars there and where lookin for more so if you haven't been to it before make plans to go it's a good time, and if you want to race check out the classes on the cfscs site theres 12 classes so everyone fits in somewhere.

There's the regular heads up classes and five index classes but the two that stand out and are the newest are the drag radial and the real street classes and I think we will have 2 or 3 cars in each from Windsor :-D Maybe you should start promoting your event at St.Thomas instead of other ones. You are losing a lot of people going to your event because no one has heard anything since your bitch fest. Hey by the way heard a rumor your paying Fants to go to your event, just wondering.:cool:

[princess68]

why did you just make up a name? Are you afraid to show who you really are?

Are you someone who pretends they are Zeke's friend and that you are racing at his event, but really you are going to another event? "Losing alot of people"- how?

I am going to Windsor Weekend (GB), like I do every year, with lots of other people, are you?

[buttercup86]

Beer and popcorn please.

[chief67]

beer x2

[memyselfandI]

why did you just make up a name? Are you afraid to show who you really are?

Are you someone who pretends they are Zeke's friend and that you are racing at his event, but really you are going to another event? "Losing alot of people"- how?

I am going to Windsor Weekend (GB), like I do every year, with lots of other people, are you? No Iam not one of his friends I don't even know him and I am not like all the other guys who started saying go to St.Thomas because Chuck is an A-hole and when their with other guys they are trashing Zeke's event. He is losing people going to his event because there is NO advertising going on and all you hear is bad things about St.Thomas. I don't pretend to like anyone if I don't like you I will tell you and I am not afraid like alot of the other guys playing both sides of the fence. Just hearing alot of shit, this stupid idea of having 2 Windsor events on the same weekend has torn the Windsor racing community in two. :-damnit

[princess68]

well- we agree, kinda. There is and only ever was- one Windsor Weekend. In Grand Bend.
You must be talking about this Shootout event too.
Yes, the community is torn but there is nothing that can't be fixed.
Just wondered why you didn't want to use your usual log in.

[princess68]

I will get a cooler and some low fat baked lays chips and be right back!!

[memyselfandI]

well- we agree, kinda. There is and only ever was- one Windsor Weekend. In Grand Bend.
You must be talking about this Shootout event too.
Yes, the community is torn but there is nothing that can't be fixed.
Just wondered why you didn't want to use your usual log in. Anything can be fixed, I just want to know why if money was such an issue to these guys why am I hearing he is paying Fants to go to his event? I don't care, I will be in G.B, I am always hearing RUMORS whether true or not I don't know, but if he is paying people to show up to St. Thomas what was the big deal of Chuck paying for the jet car and other attractions to pull people in. Know what I mean.

[princess68]

well, you have not answered my questions- so I don't know what your real agenda here is.
Zeke can answer for himself about paying someone or not.
Maybe just ask this "Fants".
Either way- he is one car, whats the big deal? I am not understanding the attraction about him and his car. Don't get me wrong- I have NO problem with him (don't know him)- its just he keeps getting dragged into this - like he is the deal-breaker here.
And ultimately everyone will go to whichever event they chose. There will be the Windsor Weekend Q16 winner like every other year. And Shootout will have its winner. period.
Sooner or later - everyone will have to show their cards and then ALL will see who was hiding.

[Zeke1]

Holly crap I go away for a few minutes and all hell breaks loose, first let me tell everyone I am not paying Fants or anyone else to show, you show because it's the right choose for you period. I will not pay you, I will not buy you beer, I will not pretend to be your friend when I am not, I will not give you a better price on parts if you say you are going, I don't play those game others do I don't, I will not do anything to make you go other than what I have allready told everyone and that is treat people fairly, treat people with respect, payout ALL the money, give a trailer away to a racer, and make this a family event someone put it in your head it's not don't know who thought :rolleyes:

As for people switching I'm sure some will but I haven't heard of any I mean look at all the crap about the track it's ALL BS every word, the funny part is alot of the people bitching about it go there ALL THE TIME and still do :confused: and others have NEVER EVEN BEEN THERE or that they say they can't get down the track in there 14 second car :rolleyes: when they run 8,9 and 10 second cars every week WTF.

As for advertising what would you like? the event is still over two months away if you haven't noticed everything is quiet right now ALL the boards it's race season not internet season, as for promoting the cfscs your right I am why because it's a chance for people to see what a good event is like it's the best in Canada and people should know what they have been missing for so many years and many Windsor cars are going, I promote all racing I hope that doesn't bother you.

As for you sign in I would expect nothing less people that feel strongly about there views don't hide behind fake names, people that do do it just to stir the pot if you have any questions of a serious nature PM me it seems to work much better

[Zeke1]

Princess you have missed alot of the story hear there is NO Q16 at WW or NA class or sport compact or bikes and sleds they are all coming to the Windsor Shootout sorry to tell you all the WW has is bracket cars not that thats bad we have them too but I'm sure you will agree they put on one hell of a show. :-D

[zekefan]

i heard fartanado melted like 6 pistons in his motor, broke the crank, etc,


memyselfandI your obviously someone who has no idea what has been going on for years, never droped big $$$ for race parts or spent all your paycheck to go racing, go to the GB event with all the one weekend a year followers, oh and the problem we have is all the money flowing into the promotors pockets, ask them to show you the books, windsor shootout will gladly show you











Anything can be fixed, I just want to know why if money was such an issue to these guys why am I hearing he is paying Fants to go to his event? I don't care, I will be in G.B, I am always hearing RUMORS whether true or not I don't know, but if he is paying people to show up to St. Thomas what was the big deal of Chuck paying for the jet car and other attractions to pull people in. Know what I mean.

[Zeke1]

Some people just won't take the time that is needed to research or check what is true and what is false it's really too bad they are goin to miss out on a great event.

I just got of the phone with Dan Cote a group of them went to St T the past weekend with there sleds and said the track was great hooked good place was clean and they can see the improvements and can't understand what all the crying is about, Oh and they are all going no one has backed out.

PS Fants engine is alive and well

[Adios]

I will not buy you beer
Cheap phuck!!:-D ...i'd buy you one..least i would have before you said that

[Zeke1]

You come by the trailer and I might have one ah who am I kidding I don't drink that crap you'll do a shot and like it mister ;)

[BUTCH LaPORTE]

zeke you drink HOLLY SHIT i never seen that.sence you wont pay people to show up can you lend me some cash for i can finish my 705 ooops i didnt
say that i mean my 406?as for stthomas having a shitty track. my car has a 1.26 60 there and at grand bend 3weeks ago the best i could get was a 1.31 so what does that tell ya.

[Zeke1]

Boy did this thread get high jacked or what :mad: There are many romours going around ALL of what I have heard is false, lets face it the only thing they can do is complain about the track because on format alone they can't compete and they know it :-D

[Adios]

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[Danielcote]

hi everyone. please excuse any gramour or spelling mistakes that I make as I am green to these forums. But I am not green to the fact that there seems to be o lot of people out there with nothing better to do but shit on there fellow Windsorite/racer. As far as these two events being held on the same weekend it is unfortute, but thats the way its going to be. I will be attending St Thomas along with giving Zeke any helping hand I can. As far as Chucks event I truly wish him all the best, I myself have really enjoyed his past partys. A little more of my oponion if I can, spreading rumors and slashing an event is not about the community its about causing shit period, if your not going to a picticular event don't worry about it, plus any extra energy one mite have would be better spent helping on one of the two events. Well thats it for now except that you will all notice I've logged on with my real name as you should when giving an oponion

[9SEC6SPD]

windsor racers = 2 year olds! here we go again!

you know... if ya got nothin' nice to say then please keep it to yo'self.

god i hope nop one else from yellow bullet or anywhere else for that matter reads this stuff! it is flat out embarrassing.

[fants]

Ok lets set the record straight,

#1 My car has hooked it's best 60 foot ever at St Thomas, as for the return road, my car is only three inches off the ground and I don,t have any problems going down it at thirty plus mph

#2 My self I prefer racing at St Thomas over Grand bend due to the atmosphere

#3Even though I would love to get paid to go and race this is a false rumor

#4Did I hurt my motor? even If I did Im sure it will be fixed in time, My rich grandmother still has lots of money left, or this is the latest rumor I have haerd! LOL

#5Why don't we all just step back and remember why we are doing this! It is supposed to be fun, A time to get together with FRIENDS, race, bbq, and have A few drinks at the end of the day!

I hope this clears some of the confussion up, as for Keith promoting CFSC he is right, it is an event that most people do not know about and is worth the mention, if you havent been you should think about going to at least watch, there is basicly a class that every car fits in, depending on if I can get away from my three full time jobs not including my paper route, i will be going to try my luck again this year. (bringing extra valve springs this time)

I will see most of you tonight if you havent forgot> DAVE

[Zeke1]

I hope that will clear things up and put any worries to rest. :-D

[Willytucker]

windsor racers = 2 year olds! here we go again!

you know... if ya got nothin' nice to say then please keep it to yo'self.

god i hope nop one else from yellow bullet or anywhere else for that matter reads this stuff! it is flat out embarrassing.

Oh no you don't...............You cannot seperate yourself from the rest of us clowns just by posting that...LOL!!!!


Seriously though, for every argument, fight, trash talkin, bullshittin, rumour, there is a friendship made. Some of the closest friends I have in this world are guys I met because of the "WINDSOR CAR SCENE"! To an outsider it may look like Windsor if full of BAFOONS with cars but away from the computer there is alot of really good people that will think nothing of helping the guy out in the next lane or lending parts or sharing tech info or whatever. The thing is we live in a small city and you can't keep any secrets here..............CL.

[buttercup86]

I'm sorry, I was asked to post this.
Everyone states that they have their best 60' times at St Thomas. Could it be that it's only 59' to the beam? This is an old story that has been told for years.
Don't shoot the messenger... LOL

[Adios]

LoL... yep they used to say the whole damn track was shorter..can't say for sure i have never measured it myself...Keith be a good chap and run up there and measure it today or tomorrow :-D

[Adios]

Oh no you don't...............You cannot seperate yourself from the rest of us clowns just by posting that...LOL!!!!

LoL nice bust Chad

[Zeke1]

Buttercup if people are asking you to post maybe you should atleast sign THERE name to it :confused: and your right it is a story that has been told for years BUT is it true? I doubt it very much it's a story that has been told for over 15 years, three different owners, and in all that time and with all the JP events, can-am nationals and track rentals NOT ONE PERSON has ever proven it to be short :confused: maybe thats because it is not true, but it sure has become a story that people will tell for many generations :rolleyes:

And I know were this is coming from people think that there is no way possible that Fants had his best 60 foot ever there just a couple of weeks ago so no they need to try and discredit the time in some way and throw a dark shadow on it if the 60's are short and the track was so bad why did he run within ONE tenth from track to track or is the entire track short too, some people need to give there heads a shake and quit :smt089

[Danielcote]

Zeke I wouldn't even waste my time answering people that have already said they have no intention of joining us at st thomas. But it is funning that they want to continue causing shit. Anyway kieth keep up the good work.
ps Im still working on that sponsor ship we were talking about.

[THE SHOE]

Somebody needs to tell the truth with out all the smoke and mirrors .. the reason Dave went his best 60' ever might have something to do with the fact that he just put 17.5 x 32 tires on the car and when he went to St Thomas he finally had the right # of laps on them to start working good, and nobody mentioned that he when a tenth slower then the day before, but he said there was a good head wind .so please tell the truth when you post. Jim Pollier

[zekefan]

Somebody needs to tell the truth with out all the smoke and mirrors .. the reason Dave went his best 60' ever might have something to do with the fact that he just put 17.5 x 32 tires on the car and when he went to St Thomas he finally had the right # of laps on them to start working good, and nobody mentioned that he when a tenth slower then the day before, but he said there was a good head wind .so please tell the truth when you post. Jim Pollier



people that are retired from the game should just sit back and keep thier mouth shut.

[mufflerguy]

people that are retired from the game should just sit back and keep thier mouth shut.

At least he has the balls to post his name! I'm not thinking he has anything to prove to anyone..........and you?

Rob Wade

[THE SHOE]

zekefan needs to get a life, as for retired you don't know jack.If i wanted to waste my time and money putting on a show for ass clowns like you,I would be the one needing to get a life!!!!

[buttercup86]

I never singled out any particular person on my post. It was a general comment.
Dave has a fine car and no one can doubt that. The post was meant as a generalization of "Folk Lore" That has never been challenged. SCM and I are not involved in the Windsor Shootout,at this point,so we are not picking sides or picking on people. Dan, keep it real you know it's not personal, your too damn big!!!
Damn... I'm outta popcorn. Gotta go!!!

[buttercup86]

Shitten low, You get that Chebby goin yet. Buttercup is finally painted!!!

[sittinlow]

1 chevy is ready just needs insurance, the other can be fixed in a couple of days, and that reminds me i have to change my signature to barney or tulip, since you aint buttercup anymore

[Zeke1]

Jim you are absolutely right about having bigger tires BUT they were on the day before at GB and I beleive it ran 1.38 at GB and 1.30 at St Thomas, and yes it ran a tenth slower but like you saide there way a big head wind. :-D

[466stang]

people that are retired from the game should just sit back and keep thier mouth shut.
Where is your car at, or do you even have one???

[Hutch]

Im not from Windsor, can I post here?
About the 60' times, its always been faster at St.Thomas because the 60' beams are a foot off the ground. I didn't know it was such a mystery? Regardless were out for 1/4 ET's and if you think the 60 ft means so much , I think you just need to use it as a guideline for the rest of the times you go there.

Take care, Hutch

[Steve_M]

Im not from Windsor, can I post here?
About the 60' times, its always been faster at St.Thomas because the 60' beams are a foot off the ground. I didn't know it was such a mystery? Regardless were out for 1/4 ET's and if you think the 60 ft means so much , I think you just need to use it as a guideline for the rest of the times you go there.

Take care, Hutch

Yes the 60' sensors at St. Thomas are off the ground.

But

So are TMP's (click here for a pic (http://www.fastpixs.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=2006_Online_Image_Galleries/2006_Toronto_Motorsports_Park_Gallaries/Drag_Strip_Action_2006/7_July_8_2006_Summit_Series_Points/No_Door_Cars&image=TMP_07-08-06-099.jpg&img=&tt=&tfile=tn_TMP_07-08-06-099.jpg)) look at where the reflector is on the foam block.

So are Grand Bend's (click here for a pic (http://www.fastpixs.com/cgi-bin/store/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=2006_Online_Image_Galleries/2006_Grand_Bend_Motorplex_Galleries/Drag_Strip_Action_2006/l_July_1st_and_2nd_2006_Thunder_Points/Sunday_Racing_Action/Door_Cars&image=GBM_7-2-06-062.jpg&img=24&tt=&tfile=tn_GBM_7-2-06-062.jpg)) look at where the reflector is on the foam block.

So are E-Town's (click here for a pic (http://competitionplus.com/g1/album634/DSD_2593)) look at where the reflector is on the foam block.

So are Chicago's (click here for a pic (http://competitionplus.com/g1/album632/IMG_3829))

At St. Thomas the distance between the starting line, 60' and finish line beams were accurate last year when I measured them.

[Steve_M]

And to bring this thread back on topic.

The CFSCS is one of the best drag race's for overall atmosphere. Chris & Trish pour their heart & soul's into this event and it definitely pays off for everyone.

I strongly suggest anyone attend this event!

[mufflerguy]

[QUOTE=Hutch]Im not from Windsor, can I post here?
About the 60' times, its always been faster at St.Thomas because the 60' beams are a foot off the ground. I didn't know it was such a mystery? Regardless were out for 1/4 ET's and if you think the 60 ft means so much , I think you just need to use it as a guideline for the rest of the times you go there.


Hutch
You can only post here if you're looking to start some chit! We don't have time to race down here cause we're to busy running our mouths about things we know nothing about......right Zekefan?

[Zeke1]

Hutch your always wecome here it's not often we get a person like you that has done so much over the years and are still doing it with great success. If the lights are too high (and I think you would know better than anyone) why would it matter or are you saying only the beams for 60 are high?

either way it really doesn't matter the entire topic was just to state that the track is just as good as GB when preped, I'm not saying it is would class or national event ready, but just as good for us thats all, Hutch you guys ran the duster there a couple of years ago I beleive you have video it ran what 7.50's lifting what was the 60 on those passes?

[Zeke1]

Thanks Steve I guess that answers the question and with pics to back it up thanks, it also answers the question has anyone ever measured now we all know it has been and it was right, :-D

[Hutch]

Zeke, the 60's back then were 1.15 and we were the same et's elsewhere and the 60's were within .01 . Regardless they are what they are and who cares, if its .01 better or worse its just a tool for the day to study your passes anyway.
Thanks for not telling me to get the phuck out.

Take care, Hutch

[Zeke1]

Thank you Hutch, you see the problem I'm having is some people think they can't hook a 11 sec car at St T but we had Windsors fastest street car three years running go to both tracks back to back to test, it ran a tenth slower 8.30's(head wind)in the 1/4 but had a better 60, now heres the problem some people still will not beleive the track is good enuff to hook and those runs are on a points day they spray but only about 100ft out but for our event it will be sprayed start to finish :-D I can only see it being better

[mufflerguy]

Zeke.....you can't win here, waste of time with some people.

[Zeke1]

I agree some people will not see facts for facts ....but what should I do let them keep spreading garbage?

[mufflerguy]

Nothing.......most of the people that frequent these boards aren't idiots. They are more than capable of reading "through" the bullshit. They are also capable of determining which event they are going to attend. So at the end of the day you can reply till your blue in the face and people are still going to race where they want. Just put your effort into making your event the best you can, and the rest will take care of itself. You can only contol so many things.....idiots aren't one of them.

[fants]

Jim you are right I did put bigger tires on the car, but with the old tires on the car last year the car went it's best 60 foot ever128.9 at St Thomas this is the best it has ever gone! I did go to St Thomas on the Sunday after Grand Bend and here are the numbers Sat Grand bend 8.29 @168 with 138.88 60 foot Sunday at St Thomas 8.38 @ 166 with 130.00 60 foot and A very strong head wind. These are the facts DAVE

[Zeke1]

decimals in the wrong spot, 1.388 GB and 1.300 St Thomas best ever 1.289 again at St Thomas. The entire point is the track is as good or better when preped properly. :-D

Now princess is going to have my ass because I didn't know about the 1.289 :( before you hang me 0.011 isn't much of a difference but 0.088 8 X's faster that some would kill for :eek:

[chief67]

Who cares?????? I thought this thread was about CFSCS, why let people hijack the thread. It doesn't matter where you race, the losers are always gonna cry. Back to original thread- I'm hoping to go up for Sunday only to watch- cars not together.

[bsj]

zeke it doesnt matter what you say or do .princess is going to ride your ass about somthing!

[princess68]

no comment

you thread is safe with me.

[bradgibbs]

hey joe,got that hotrod out yet?????????????????????

[bsj]

ya i had it out about 3 times this year im just to busy trying to get other things done im fixing up the motor home i want to get ride of it and buy a enclosed trailer with living quarters . i seen a nice looking camper in your driveway there . did you get your motor back together yet?

[bradgibbs]

you shoulda stopped in 4 a beer when you were out this way,motor should be back togethor this week i hope,we leave for vacation next friday...

[33 fuel]

were was fantino for real street outlaw at cfsc zeke???????

[Zeke1]

Sorry from what I was told he had a driver take the weekend off with no notice and he had to fill in, work comes first :(

But I did watch, it looked like a good time, I wish Fants could have made it looked like he would have done really well I beleive every pass was 8.60's or slower except for BooKing in the final 7.75 WOW thats gettin it done :)

[33 fuel]

thats 8.60 on motor @ 168 my nos popped a fuse on last pass .