what you think of dog hunters (deer)

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

we have the most problems with friggin dog hunters most of them are GRADE A assholes,,, are we the only people that have this kind of problem

[200horse]

whats a dog hunter??

[67barracuda]

Can't use dogs to hunt deer here in Michigan

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

A dog hunter is a lazy basterd that sits on his tailgate and lets a pack of dogs run deer out of the woods ,,,, they usually live in town and have no permission to hunt anywhere but try to locate a deer at nite with a spot lite and then they turn the dogs out at that spot in the morning,,, they will stand on their dog boxes on the side of the road with high powered rifles on their shoulder,, ( this is called catching the dogs, )

[MadMonte]

Can't use dogs to hunt deer here in Michigan


Can't do that in PA also. Is it legal to use dogs to hunt deer anywhere in the states? I think it is BS.

[Kwikford]

A dog hunter is a lazy basterd that sits on his tailgate and lets a pack of dogs run deer out of the woods ,,,, they usually live in town and have no permission to hunt anywhere but try to locate a deer at nite with a spot lite and then they turn the dogs out at that spot in the morning,,, they will stand on their dog boxes on the side of the road with high powered rifles on their shoulder,, ( this is called catching the dogs, )

I see you're from NC. I'm from NC too.
May I ask you 1 question....
Is that legal in the state of North Carolina?:confused:


Originally, I'm from Pa.
It is illegal to use spot lights or dogs for deer hunting or luring deer to other hunters
You can lose your license for xx amount of years.

[200horse]

what more advantge does a hunter need? GUN WITH A SCPOE ISNT ENOUGH?

[Kwikford]

what more advantge does a hunter need? GUN WITH A SCPOE ISNT ENOUGH?

never heard of scpoe.... is that a new word??? :-D

back to topic..... you'll never know there may be deer on steroids...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtlHTAhUdY

:-Daw

[mopars69]

i hunt with dogs.whats the problem?

[Formulized94]

lol at this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkDGZVyUkOQ&feature=related

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

you can spot lite deer until 11:00 p.m. as far as running deer with dogs it is legal in N.C. in the eastern half of the state. i have hunted for 30 years ,planting food plots, cutting shooting lane , trying to build a nice deer herd but as soon as one of these dudes see a nice deer standing in a field they tell all there friends and they come back the next morning to run that deer off your land, most of the still hunters work with the land owners to build a relationship but the assplug road hunters will drive through the fields tear up roads and just disrespect anyone in there way,,,, if you can show me one cosiderate dog hunter i'll show 500 considerate still hunters,,,they also like to show there kills on top of there dog boxes ,,thankgiving morning on way to inlaws a guy had a 40-60 pound doe on top of his box (( trophy right?))

[Kwikford]

thankgiving morning on way to inlaws a guy had a 40-60 pound doe on top of his box (( trophy right?))


that is phucking 6-8 months old deer. I would shoot that guy and put him on the roof of my car......

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

about aweek ago i seen these guys beside the road and one of them had two deer on the tailgale one of the deer had 2 inch horns and the other was a small doe, he told me he had a good day hunting i ask him if he ever wanted to kill a trophy buck, we would have to let the little ones go but he informed me that he didn't like to eat horns ,,,,that the small ones were much more tender

[jwprops]

that's funny didn't like to eat horns

[1st_Gen]

Dogs and spotlighting are illegal in Texas as well. Hunting off the road or on someones property without permission is illegal too. How can they get away with hunting from a roadway or on private property without permission? You're liable to get shot in Texas for that.

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

we talked to the sherriff dept and the game wardens but both said it was the others job to enforce the laws seems like it is the buddy ol' pal system, be very thankful you live in a state that does not allow this ,,,,, it is not uncommon to look out your house window and see a man with a orange hat standing there with a gun they have no idea if your children are playing in the yard or not,,,i think the bastards just don't care

[nitroaddict]

i can't believe some people have such a hard time deer hunting that they have to use tactics like that. here in indiana we just run them over with our cars.

[mopars69]

ill kick your ass bitch boy

[david gray]

up here if we see a dog chasing deer, we shoot the dog :smt070

[kelly andersen]

up here if we see a dog chasing deer, we shoot the dog :smt070Damn right, dogs chase deer here in minnesota the dogs open season. I bet they wouldnt come back if you popped a few LOL

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

thanks mopars69 just the coment i would expect out of a dog hunter:mad:

[slo50]

dog hunters are ignorent

[1st_Gen]

we talked to the sherriff dept and the game wardens but both said it was the others job to enforce the laws seems like it is the buddy ol' pal system, be very thankful you live in a state that does not allow this ,,,,, it is not uncommon to look out your house window and see a man with a orange hat standing there with a gun they have no idea if your children are playing in the yard or not,,,i think the bastards just don't care

So you're saying these people come onto your property and hunt? Like I said, you could get shot in Texas for that. Trespassing with a firearm is a Class C felony I believe. Add poaching to that and it would be one helluva fine. And here, it's 100% the game wardens responsibility to enforce game and hunting laws. And they will cut you no slack! I was in my travel trailer the other night. Sound asleep at about 9:30PM. Game warden knocks on the door and announces himself. Checked my hunting license, even though he had no proof I was even there to hunt. I gladly complied because I hate poachers and support the game wardens any time I can.

[bolla]

1st hunting deer with dogs is nothing like what is being described on here . it is unfair to even post that spotlighting and hunting with hounds is even connected . much less hunters trespass on private property in all forms of deer hunting .

2nd if you think baiting deer with food plots is hunting then you are crazy it is cruel and inhumane to kill deer while they are eating from a manmade trap

3rd where im from if you kill a dog you had better hide because if the owners dont get you the commonwealths attorney will prosecute as if you have killed a man

[z289sec]

So you're saying these people come onto your property and hunt? Like I said, you could get shot in Texas for that. Trespassing with a firearm is a Class C felony I believe. Add poaching to that and it would be one helluva fine. And here, it's 100% the game wardens responsibility to enforce game and hunting laws. And they will cut you no slack! I was in my travel trailer the other night. Sound asleep at about 9:30PM. Game warden knocks on the door and announces himself. Checked my hunting license, even though he had no proof I was even there to hunt. I gladly complied because I hate poachers and support the game wardens any time I can.


X2

I always try to develop as good a relationship as possible with the game wardens. They will tell you all kinds of useful info if they know that you are behind them all the way. At our old lease we had a great old guy that was the warden for that area. He would come by and sample some of our lease cuisine every now and again. He also caught a couple of guys trying to get onto our lease once and slapped a nice bigass fine on them.

I've never been much of a blind hunter. I prefer the stalk method. My first deer I ever got was spotted from the blind but we were at least 400-500 yards away. Went on the stalk and practically walked right into him and he never heard us, and we didn't even see the doe that ran out to him. When I took the shot I was about 30 yards from him.

[kelly andersen]

Why would hunting with dogs be considered hunting?? I think it would be classified as shooting since your sitting on your fat ass waiting for a dog to chase it by you, No sport in shooting something running for its life.

[OL TBONE]

Something you might want to remember is most dog runners think more of there dogs than they think of you.There s nothing wrong with running dogs as long as you resepct the law here in Mississippi we run our dogs but we dont shoot from the road an we dont trespass.Now keep in mind not all people hunt the same so before you judge some one remember not all dog runners are bad or stupid.Oh yea its not called dog hunting its called hunting with dogs or dog runners we dont hunt dogs we hunt deer.

[upstand2]

Hunting with dogs is as low and lazy as trapping!

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

you are rite ol tbone i myself have run deer with dogs when i was younger. our club rented 15000 acres we were 2 miles of the main roads it was timber co. land cut up in 1/2 mile squares we bothered no one with very strick rules on relation to surounding land owners, we had a great time and i loved to do it but the guys i have a problem with mainly live in subdivisions with no respect for land owners in the country no one ever bothers them in town but they do not respect us land owners if you confront these guys they want to fight , i'm on my land and they consider me the bag guy,,, i do not like to kill a mans dogs i know what it cost to raise them,,but some of these guys leave you no choice, i live on a curvey road and it is not uncommon to come around a bend and a man standing on top of his dog box holding a shotgun, with a rifle on his shoulder, you think if a deer ran out he wouldn't shoot in your direction,,

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

buy the way around here these guys are known as dog hunters,, road hunters, renegade hunters, or assholes

[i_miss_racing!]

That is fucked up. A neighbor of ours up in northern michigan had his brother in law running deer off of his property. He shot the dog and called his brother in law, "is your dog home? Well he ain't coming home" I still laugh thinking about that story. I don't see much sport in that type of hunting. I guess for bears, or raccons that climb trees ok, but for whitetails I don't think so.

[girdletree]

We have a whole county population both hunters and non hunters that are against deer hunting with dogs. ( Accomac Co. Va) We have one county commissioner that gets money from hunt clubs leasing his land to keep it legal. Every year the hunters let their dogs out on public roads away from their lease and then the dogs run the deer back to their land where they can shot them from their trucks. You can hear the shooters on the CB radios running the roads trying to catch up to their dogs and deer. After listening for a while you clearly know that these people are not sportsman. Often they do not feed the dogs prior to turning them loose. As I Land Surveyor I have found lots of lost dogs in the woods. Their feet and ears are all torn up from briars. We have so many deer in our area that you are going to see atleast 5-10 deer each day still hunting. The hunters that hunt with dogs do it for the Blood Sport and the excitement of the chase. They donate all the meat. Non hunting farmers do not complain too much becuase any dead deer is less crop damage. Adjacent landowners that implement quality deer management are really upset.

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

i had a friend that killed 5 or 6 dogs one day,they have the mans name and address on the collar so he took them and laid them on his front porch,, needless to say he pulled a couple of months in jail....it would be nice if they would with the land and home owners,but they have very little respect for property they'll tear up roads with the big 4x4's and drive rite across planted fields rutting them up, that lets me know they just don't care

[hugger73hatch]

Some of you don't have a clue do you? You think that hunting with dogs is not fair, etc. Hunting with dogs has been around since humans have been hunting. Most dogs were bred for this particular reason. You will actually find in our area that there are a lot of people that still hunt and hunt with dogs. It is against the law to shoot from the road, and while I am sure there are some that do, that doesn't mean that we all do.

One of my buddies had a dog get killed on the road Saturday. A couple of dogs got into the road and as I was picking one up some asshole cam barrelling down the road, while he saw what I was trying to do and nailed the dog killing him immediately. Then this asshole doesn't even stop. Actually, he did stop about a mile up the road, got out of his SUV, looked at the front, and hauled ass.

Also, not all of us just sit and wait for the dogs to run them to you. I have been hunting with dogs a long time, and that is just not the way it works. I tag out every year and it is very rarely that I have ever killed a deer close to the truck. Most of the times I seem to end up with a 400 yard drag, so know your facts. There are certain trails that a deer runs, even when running dogs. Don't believe me, Saturday we had 3 seperate bucks run the exact same path on 3 different dog drives. Most of the people bashing us that hunt with dogs don't want to admit they need to mark their way in and out of the woods so they don't get lost.

Last point right now, if it weren't for people who hunt with dogs the deer population would be overpopulated and disease would begin to set into the population. Know your facts!

[millhouse1]

I think the point is that some dog hunters use the grey areas in the law system to their advantage. This means retrieving a dog off of somebody else property-and shooting a deer in the process.

A club I used to belong to would work with the authorities to catch poachers and spotlighters. We would tell the wardens about people cruising our property lines, then the game wardens would come in and set up a radio controlled dummy. The radio deer would have a wagging tail, ears would twitch. This was a full taxidermy deer with motors and servos inside it.

Those wardens made a killing off of the locals who refused to buy licenses, hunted at night, shot from a vehicle in the road.

Work with the authorities in your area to get the laws changed if you don't want "dog hunters" on your property. Just get somebody who is not in the "good ole boy" club.

[noluck]

Dog running is a big sport in N MS. I am a memeber of a club that is primarily all dog runners.. I am the only one who actually still hunts.. Before I got in the club or knew much about dog running I always had a bad opinion of them.. Now there are some around here who give it a bad name.. But the guys I hunt with are a good group.. they key is they hunt like it should be.. Hunt w/ beagles, short races , never more than a 20 -30 min drive at a time.. Don't run the deer outta the country, stay on our land, and they also show respect to other hunters.. i.e. If I am on my stand they simply don't turn loose in that area.. Also the sport is there,, ever try shooting a good deer or try judging a deer at 200 yds when he is " belly to the ground" ? then you have a window of about 10-15 sec. for a shot which will always be free handed, no time to prop or get on a rest.. I have learned that I like both styles of hunting but will always be a still hunter.. Not all dog runners are a--holes,, but someone made the comment about shooting the dog,, In MS where hunting w/ dogs is legal,, if you kill a mans dog, the owner of the dog get's to name his price for payment of said dog!

[upstand2]

"ever try shooting a good deer or try judging a deer at 200 yds when he is " belly to the ground" ? "
Thats not sport. Thats taking a pot-shot and hoping for the best. It shows little respect for the game the dogs or the sport. Your asking for an accident. The value you have for your dogs goes little beyond your words and recouping your investment.

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

shooting a deer at a full run is a hand full , i think it is the thrill of the chase more than the sport of taking a nice buck, and at 200 yards you have to shoot a rifle so there is even less time to identify what is beyond the deer where the missed shoot bullet will strike........

[noluck]

I didn't mean to sound any kind of way,, but you do have to account for where you are shooting and the enviroment around you.. It is no different when still hunting.. you take a long shot at a deer or even a relatively close one.. if you aren't aware of your surroundings a missed shot can be bad no matter what.. I was just implying that not all dog hunters are bad guys and that there is some sport to it.. BUT... again i am a still hunter and believe this is how it is supposed to be done.. YOU hunt for the deer not the dogs.. but again just my .02... There is no comparison to still hunting be it in a stand or on the ground.. nothing like the cold air, the anticipation,, the waiting ,, then you hear a small crunch in the leaves,, adrenalin starts up ...killer rush... gotta love it.

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

again,,,just yesterday a farmer friend of mine left a 30 foot span around his wheat he just planted so the local club could get around easily and catch their dogs but of course they just drove rite across his planted field, he ask them to please drive around the wheat so it would not ruin his fields and true to form they wanted to fight him. i know there are some of these guys that are somewhat mindfull of others but not many,,,,, just last year here where i live a young guy hunting with dogs shot a deer running across a mans front yard needless to say he shot out three windows,,, how would fell if your wife and kids were in that house ?

[33 fuel]

you can use dog's up here in Ontario Canada in different zones .The province is maped out into zones for rifle , shotgun only and different start and finish dates. Really Dense bush areas of northern ontario the only way you could ever hunt these areas is with dogs , youd never get the deer moving without them.

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

we have talked alot about the pros and cons of running deer with dogs and i think it comes down to if it is done in a controlled place where you do not a have a bunch of people it is fine, but when they do it in a heavily populated area it pisses of a lot of people off and there will be problems ,u can dog hunt and have a lot of fun doing it,it's just these men that have no idea where thay are or who owns the land they are on, and when asked to leave usually want to start trouble,,(which i don't mind).

[Mach1Marauder]

,,,,, it is not uncommon to look out your house window and see a man with a orange hat standing there with a gun they have no idea if your children are playing in the yard or not,,,i think the bastards just don't care
Whaaaaaaat????

hat hat would be a bloody orange hat.

[Mach1Marauder]

Last point right now, if it weren't for people who hunt with dogs the deer population would be overpopulated and disease would begin to set into the population. Know your facts!

REALLY?
Wonder why we don't have an over population inTexas?.........now your facts.

[bolla]

REALLY?
Wonder why we don't have an over population inTexas?.........now your facts.
because you sit on top of deer feeders and kill a bunch of tame deer

[Mach1Marauder]

because you sit on top of deer feeders and kill a bunch of tame deer

Suuuuuuuuuure!:rolleyes:

I haven't killed a deer close to feeder since I was 12.

[allenh]

while sitting on my stand earlier this year a young doe came running into the field like she was crazy, then i heard some dogs barking... then i saw them across the fence on my nieghbors property, if they would have continued my way i would have shot both of them, they would have been drt!! (dead right there) i have hunted my whole life in tx and that is the first time i ever saw it first hand and hopefully the last.:-damnit

[bolla]

while sitting on my stand earlier this year a young doe came running into the field like she was crazy, then i heard some dogs barking... then i saw them across the fence on my nieghbors property, if they would have continued my way i would have shot both of them, they would have been drt!! (dead right there) i have hunted my whole life in tx and that is the first time i ever saw it first hand and hopefully the last.:-damnit
so its alright to shoot innocent dogs

[allenh]

so its alright to shoot innocent dogs
everyone has thier own opinions and mine is yes. if they are out chasing your deer herd around and you know all your niehbors dont hunt with dogs and know the dogs dont belong to anyone around you... i dont see where it hurts at all. the poeple with these dogs did not have permission to be on any surounding properties. i know this because we have all been friends for a long time and discuss this kind of suff all the time. not all situations are the same.

[Mach1Marauder]

everyone has thier own opinions and mine is yes. if they are out chasing your deer herd around and you know all your niehbors dont hunt with dogs and know the dogs dont belong to anyone around you... i dont see where it hurts at all. the poeple with these dogs did not have permission to be on any surounding properties. i know this because we have all been friends for a long time and discuss this kind of suff all the time. not all situations are the same.
I agree.

[mopars69]

i really only use them when i dont get a clean shot and i need to track,thats when i use dogs.i dont let the dogs actually attack the deer

[allenh]

i really only use them when i dont get a clean shot and i need to track,thats when i use dogs.i dont let the dogs actually attack the deer
tracking them is one thing, hunting is a whole other world. alot of people use dogs to trail wounded deer. i have no objections to that

[SouthernTrendKill]

I've hunted both ways. At a Hunt Club that ran dogs on OUR HUNT CLUB PROPERTY.

And Still Hunting and a Friends property with permision.

Shooting a deer at full run with a Shotgun is alot harder to do than shooting a deer that is standing still with a rifle.

I don't really concider shooting a deer with a Rifle a sport. More like going to the grocery store for meat. But to each his own. I'd say there is more poaching with rifles than dogs. I won't do a search but I'd bet if you check the arrest records I'm correct.

I haven't tried it but "Primitive Hunting" would be a challenge and I concider that a Sport.

[allenh]

I've hunted both ways. At a Hunt Club that ran dogs on OUR HUNT CLUB PROPERTY.

And Still Hunting and a Friends property with permision.

Shooting a deer at full run with a Shotgun is alot harder to do than shooting a deer that is standing still with a rifle.

I don't really concider shooting a deer with a Rifle a sport. More like going to the grocery store for meat. But to each his own. I'd say there is more poaching with rifles than dogs. I won't do a search but I'd bet if you check the arrest records I'm correct.

I haven't tried it but "Primitive Hunting" would be a challenge and I concider that a Sport.
what do you consider " primitive hunting"? i also archery hunt, have for years and shot competition for years and compound hunting isnt really a challenge anymore. i am going to start this coming year with a recurve, this should be fun and hard!

[SouthernTrendKill]

what do you consider " primitive hunting"? i also archery hunt, have for years and shot competition for years and compound hunting isnt really a challenge anymore. i am going to start this coming year with a recurve, this should be fun and hard!

Rocks and sharp sticks! Archery with hand made arrows and bows. Not home made in a machine shop, hand made beating the tips out of flint with a rock. No cheating and buying string from Lowes, hand make it all.

Or just Rambo one (Jump out of a tree, land on its back, and kill it with a sharp stick.)

That's primitive.:p

[upstand2]

Hmmm...sounds like I'll file primitive hunting under "stupid stunts" along with useing an insuffienient caliber , shots out of range and 5 year olds going hunting.

[hugger73hatch]

Suuuuuuuuuure!:rolleyes:

I haven't killed a deer close to feeder since I was 12.


But how many have you killed INSIDE A FENCE 12' TALL!!!

[hugger73hatch]

everyone has thier own opinions and mine is yes. if they are out chasing your deer herd around and you know all your niehbors dont hunt with dogs and know the dogs dont belong to anyone around you... i dont see where it hurts at all. the poeple with these dogs did not have permission to be on any surounding properties. i know this because we have all been friends for a long time and discuss this kind of suff all the time. not all situations are the same.


In VA, you my friend will be the one getting the ticket from the game warden. It is called impeding the hunt. Seen it happen. And remeber, dogs don't have steering wheels.

[Mach1Marauder]

But how many have you killed INSIDE A FENCE 12' TALL!!!

None EVER!
Most shots I take are well over 200yds.

[bolla]

None EVER!
Most shots I take are well over 200yds.
now thats hunting killing something 200 yards away with no idea that you either see them. im sure that all hunters hunting with rifles taking 200 yard shots dont trespass and thats the safest way to hunt because if you miss we all know that the innocent person a mile away wont get hit by a stray bullet because you wont take a shot until there is a big enough tree to stop the bullet behind him. BE FOR REAL FordSux:

[Mach1Marauder]

now thats hunting killing something 200 yards away with no idea that you either see them. im sure that all hunters hunting with rifles taking 200 yard shots dont trespass and thats the safest way to hunt because if you miss we all know that the innocent person a mile away wont get hit by a stray bullet because you wont take a shot until there is a big enough tree to stop the bullet behind him. BE FOR REAL FordSux:

HUSH little boy! I hunt in TEXAS! WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM HERE.













ps.........I've never missed any deer..............or any other quarry.:cool:

[allenh]

In VA, you my friend will be the one getting the ticket from the game warden. It is called impeding the hunt. Seen it happen. And remeber, dogs don't have steering wheels.
did you not read what i said... not all situations are the same. i live and hunt in texas! it is ILLEGAL here to hunt with dogs period! (for deer that is)

[mopars69]

i do think its bullshit that people run there dogs for the kill(not for tracking)

[hugger73hatch]

did you not read what i said... not all situations are the same. i live and hunt in texas! it is ILLEGAL here to hunt with dogs period! (for deer that is)


Doesn't have to be. Some rules can change. Besides, at some point it probably was legal until some dumbass politician got involved with some animal rights activist.

[hugger73hatch]

now thats hunting killing something 200 yards away with no idea that you either see them. im sure that all hunters hunting with rifles taking 200 yard shots dont trespass and thats the safest way to hunt because if you miss we all know that the innocent person a mile away wont get hit by a stray bullet because you wont take a shot until there is a big enough tree to stop the bullet behind him. BE FOR REAL FordSux:


X2...has no clue. Anyone can hit a deer STANDING STILL I'M SURE FROM 200 Yards with a rifle. Try hitting one running with a shotgun at 75 yards and let's see how good you are then.

[ZS10]

FWIW, can't use dogs to run deer here. When a dog is seen chasing a deer, dog gets it first.

[JFontaine]

Using an animal to hunt another animal is nowhere near as rewarding as being the animal hunting the other animal.

[chevymec]

The spot I have hunted for the last 2 years hasnt been shit because of the damn dogs running through the property. And you cant call the pound to get a hunting dog, they wont get them.

[boostedstang]

thats why they call it dog hunting, turn the dogs loose and hunt for they ass's all day to put them back in the truck.not my kind of hunting

[hugger73hatch]

thats why they call it dog hunting, turn the dogs loose and hunt for they ass's all day to put them back in the truck.not my kind of hunting

That's why they make tracking collars so we can track them down. Wouldn't have dogs without them.

[fts]

Hunting with dogs does screw up still hunting but don’t give the tree huggers a way to stop it. The next thing you won’t be able to hurt a tree by using a tree stand. It stinks that the hunters around you are idiots. I am in Virginia and they keep talking about banning hunting with dogs. I don’t like the dogs but am scared if the stop it the next step is to stop hunting all together.

[phantomracer]

hunting is hunting--dogs-atv's-whatever method is used is all good in my opinion

hell if i hit a deer with my powerstroke i call it open season

[boostedstang]

thats right bumper FTW. the land that backs up to my hunting land runs dogs, sometimes its good they run the deer to me.

[boostedstang]

you still have got to hunt them, collar does not make them come back. buddy went dog hunting last weekend it was 9:00 that night before all the dogs where round up, to much work for meThat's why they make tracking collars so we can track them down. Wouldn't have dogs without them.

[opie1977]

I see both sides of this debate and I can say as a serious hunter that while feeders do hold deer, they do not often hold big bucks. I hunt in Barhardt TX south of san angelo and we have managed 10,000 acres for 12 years now and the quality of the deer is night and day I am trying to post a pic of the buck I got this year he is 21 inside 13" G2's 154 wet so I hope to make the book with him in a few weeks if it does not shrink too bad. I say feeders when used correctly are good but I do not like the dog thing. Inherently more dangerous and affects others hunting around you too much

[boostedstang]

i wish alabama would allow feeders

[punknhead]

i never knew a hillbilly that did,nt hunt with out a dog.

there once was a man named Jed a poor montaineer that barely keep his family fed

[HILLBILLYONLINE]

i have hunted with dog before but in a place were it didn't bother any land owners