Redline heavy shock proof oil????

[sscrivy]

I have a new Strange 9" third member and I was wondering if anyone uses or recommends the Redline gear oil. Strange only recommends non-synthetic, but I thought I would see what others run

[Cale Aronson]

The Red Line is good stuff.... Also Royal Purple. To be honest if you are not gunning for that last 1 to 2 hundreths.... just run Castrol 75w-90!

If you need to purchase anything... feel free to let me know.

Also, if you wanted to gain some extra performance, you can have the ring gear and pinion REM Polished to get rid of some drag, but then you REALLY can't run full synthetic. We do polishing...so if you are interested in that... let me know!

[sscrivy]

Thanks Cale, but I've already had the micro blue process done by Strange. I guess this means I should just stick with the non-synthetic then gear oil.

[quickwrench]

...Also, if you wanted to gain some extra performance, you can have the ring gear and pinion REM Polished to get rid of some drag, but then you REALLY can't run full synthetic...
Why's that, Cale?

[teddy]

so if the gear is Rem polished or even mikronited, you shouldn't run synthetic??

[Scott @ DLS]

That gear requires no break in since the Rem polish or mikronite process has been applied. Dyno oil protects the gear better while the fosfate coating is being worn off. The process you had done took all of the fostate off.

[rmracing]

I was told by Motive not to run synthetic on the micronite gears because something about it wouldnt stick good enough to the slicker surface and it could lead to gear breakage . I just run the standard gears so I cant speak from experience .

[Cale Aronson]

Not trying to get into a pissing contest... but this is my opinion.
It is not worth pushing it!

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj188/aronsonmotorsports/REM1.jpg

Above you will see what it does to the metal... by smoothing the metal you do not have the pourous surfaces to retain the lubrication provided by a synthetic gear oil. The difference in why you could run it on a polished crank shaft in your engine is because there it is pressurized and has a constant supply. A gear is only running in the oil for about 40% of the time and at high RPM it slings off.... Now this is hard to imagine and does take time to wear down.... however it can do it over time.

When you REM or Micropolish a gear you actually do not have the need for the synthetic lube, and will not lose anything by going to conventional or a synthetic/conventional blend. I believe highly in the blends.

Also, something that has to be taken into consideration is that your ring and pinion as well as bearings get hotter and hotter as you use them and therefore changes the viscosity of the oil in the housing. It will make the oil thinner.

It is actually a simple deal. Not saying you CAN'T run synthetic.... just wouldn't recommend it for long use. You have to realize that in drag racing the rear end is put under a considerable load and shock on launch as well as throughout gear changes!

Some Synthetic makers use an additive called "friction modifiers" and they cut down on the oils ability to stick to the surface. In other words.... if you put soapy water in the housing, it will get the gear wet.... but won't be a lasting lubricant!

Once again... I say go with the synthetic blend.

[Scott @ DLS]

Royal Purple sticks to everything is a mofo to clean out. I am very impressed with the mirconite process, I had a few Nascar gears come thru for set up and they were in the 5.71 and up ratios. Usually when they get that high you can not turn the pinion buy the ring gear. These turned over very easily even with pinion bearing preloads.

[Cale Aronson]

Scott,

Could you give me a call when you get time...

Shop 660-646-4553
Cell 816-390-0852
Email - cale@gofastquick.com

[dougd]

Hi Scott: Any centers we have worked on that came in knowing they ran synthetic had a very small amount of oil on them, one property of synthetic is that it doesnt stick to a surface( bad for gears).With special moly additives it can stick, buy settles out quickly. Any NASCAR teams i know of uses a mineral base oil .They used synthetic when they had qualifing rears for 4-laps. When they did that they added 1 large tube of moroso paste moly additive,and changed the rear after qualifing. That rear also used a 10w synthetic oil.Synthetic oil is rated differtently that mineral base oil,90w sythetic is more like 40wt. mineral base. Jeff at strange and i share the same views on Synthetic - dont use it. thanks doug

[68Bird]

The RP gear oil is synthetic isn't it?

Craig

[Mike Peters]

So, is Redline full of ca-ca when they state this? ---

Heavy ShockProof A unique lubricant containing a suspension of solid microscopic particles as an extreme pressure agent--unique solid dispersion which cushions gear teeth to help prevent tooth breakage and allows the use of lower viscosities.
Recommended for heavily-loaded racing differentials and transmissions, Off Road racing and problem gearboxes. The viscosity characteristics allow the lubricant to resist throwoff and provide a film thickness similar to a 75W250 grade, while providing the same low fluid friction as an SAE 75W90.

[feetfirst]

So, is Redline full of ca-ca when they state this? ---

Heavy ShockProof A unique lubricant containing a suspension of solid microscopic particles as an extreme pressure agent--unique solid dispersion which cushions gear teeth to help prevent tooth breakage and allows the use of lower viscosities.
Recommended for heavily-loaded racing differentials and transmissions, Off Road racing and problem gearboxes. The viscosity characteristics allow the lubricant to resist throwoff and provide a film thickness similar to a 75W250 grade, while providing the same low fluid friction as an SAE 75W90.

Id like to know as well..........got a whole case of the stuff:confused:

[brian@afm]

I was told by Motive not to run synthetic on the micronite gears because something about it wouldnt stick good enough to the slicker surface and it could lead to gear breakage . I just run the standard gears so I cant speak from experience .

You've been running a micronite prepped gear? Man, I wish we had one of those.:tonqe:

Hi Rocky!

I dunno, we've always had good results with the Royal Purple Max Gear 75W90, but, none of the ring and pinoin's we've run to this point have had any special prep work done. We also run the Royal Purple Synchromax in the manaul trans, which has been REM'd, without any lubrication issues.

[Mike Peters]

Id like to know as well..........got a whole case of the stuff:confused:

Have you been running it? What housing do you have? Maybe you can provide some feedback if you've had success with it.

[PONYEATER]

I have had great success running The redline 85-250w shockproof, sticks to the gear very well and does a great job. Minimal rearend warmup needed compared to some other conventional oils. I have run REM gears with no issues with synthetic. I would highly recomend a Viton pinion seal though :-D

[feetfirst]

Have you been running it? What housing do you have? Maybe you can provide some feedback if you've had success with it.

No, I havent.......... Its an 8.8
We will find out soon though:p