Anti-roll bar ???

[jrsfast84]

Jim, i'm John Newman from "Wheelie World" ,stock suspended 84' firebird, i put a fuel cell in my hatch, and stock tank is gone, for rear susp. i have a 12bolt, with a factory style sway bar, and susp.is all in stock locations, thinking of get an above the rear anti-roll bar kit, so i can use my Strange Double adj. shocks, which kit would be a good choice to buy, without adding a lot of weight, vs the factory sway bar. thanks.

[Jim Filipowski]

I have / use a weld in roller bearing anti-roll bar.

[jrsfast84]

for the anti-roll bar ??, is there a difference in the above rear and below rear anti-roll bar, i was thinking of getting a above rear from Comp. Eng., but will it take the power and be good enough in the 8's. thanks. John Newman.

[jrsfast84]

Jim, do you make anti-roll bars for stock rear suspension, if so, is there a difference in under the rear or above the rear, I like the Wolfe's below the rear. but need the right advice on it . Thanks, John Newman.

[85Camaro]

I think the under the rear anti roll bar was in mind for 82+ F-bodies that are still running a stock tank that is located above the rear axle.

[Ed-vancedEngines]

Suggested caution against the cheaper brands of copy-cat anti-roll bars. They will break. Several near crashes have occured becuase of anti-roll bars having breakage.

For the poster with the 3rd or 4th gen GM F body car. I can not possibly imagine your car needing or benefiting from any anti-roll bar if you have factory type of rear suspension. Those cars work very well with a stronger and adjustable shorter torque arm, added to good strong lower control arms/bars. Unless I am missing something in your posting, and you have departed from the torque arm setup, that suspension is not prone to body roll. The aftermarket torque arms for the 4th gen are shorter than those for the 3rd gen. From the factory just by that only the 4th gen rear suspension will work better. I like the Steve Spohn 4th gen torque arms put on the 3rd gen cars but make the forward mounting brackets longer and more adjustable so they can be adjusted eother up or down. Of course you will need the rear of bars to be adjustabe so you can keep pinion angle right. WolfeRcaeCraft makes a similar torque arm for much more money.

Hope this suggestion is ok to be posted here?
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Ed

[jrsfast84]

I'm running all Spohn stuff on the rear and there all adj. Problem i'm having is off the line the car will twist very bad to the right and the car is very hard to control, but with a stock style sway bar (anti-drag bar ) from BMR that someone let me try, my car was straight out of the hole and i never took it off,but now I'm have wheel standing issues,i'm now running a 440" sbc,th400 w/brake,12bolt 4.30 gears,motor make 844hp,( NA ),i tryed to taking off sway, and can't control the car off idle or off the brake,but get this the car never wants to do any sort of wheel stands, so i bought Strange Double Adj. rear shocks and i just couldn't get them to work for me and with them on they won't clear that stock stlye sway bar, that why i was going to get a above the rear or below the rear anti-roll bar kit. but never got any good info. to work with. Thanks hope this info. help you under stand were i'm at. JR Newman.http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/jrsfast84/x-mascar032.jpg

[Ed-vancedEngines]

The picture does speak a thousand words.

If possible, I suggest several possibilities to try.

lower the front torque arm attaching point.

Lower the rear ride ht by bringing the axle up closer to the frame some.

Raise he rear of the bottom controlarm/bar if you have lowered it from stock bolt location.

Tighten up the front end upward travel with some osrt of a limiter. I see that your front suspension is distended quite a long ways. Try to limit the front travel some to reduce weight transfer. Use soft compression type shocks in the front too. Do not use 90/10 if you don't need them, and you don't.

Adjust the rear shocks to be stiffer on rebound (Extension)

You would also want the rear shocks to be somewhat soft on compression. (not this issue).

Hope that one or more of these suggestions help you in this.

I agree that you need to keep or to use a good anti-sway bar in the rear as a rear end locater to keep it stabilized. I do not think you need or will need the typical anti-roll bar though for that type of car.
Ed

[jrsfast84]

as for the front of torque-arm you can't adj. it, for ride height car is lowered as far as it can go,front susp. has limiters and koni-adj. ,and it has 2" of travel with struts at the firmest,as for the rear lower control arms, they are lowered down, but can be put back to stock location, so your suggestions on a rear anti-roll bar, thanks for your help there are some possiblities with the rear adj. shocks, soon as i finish preping the car to be painted i'll let you know, Thanks again. JR Newman.

[Mark Nealen]

Hi I have the same problem as well, I run the bmr sway bar. I just ordered a pair of strange double adjustable shocks as well. You mean to tell me they will not work with the stock style sway bar! What the puck more fab work. where Did you order yours from and were they specific to the car?

[jrsfast84]

they have adj. knobs on both sides of where it bolts to the rear, and yes, more work, i'm waiting for Wolfes to get back to me, i'm going to buy the under the rear single adj. one, and get it welded one to go testing.