Xtreme St. Question

[1QuickBird]

In the rules it says.....
TIRES–REAR: Racing slicks required. Maximum actual measured tire size is as follows: Actual measured tread of tire is limited to 10.75 inches by 30.5 inches tall. Tire width will be measured by a “go-no go” gauge. Tire width and height will be measured after conclusion of run at scale area. Tire tread may not extend outside fenders.

So does that mean you cannot run a drag radial?

[Blownbird]

Correct!
Bob Curran has been fighting to keep them out for years.
He seems to run the show over there as far as XS goes.
Don Barnett

[1QuickBird]

Ok, sounds good just making sure.
Thanks.

[gryphon68]

How close is a M/T Radial Construction Slick in feel and capability toa M/T DOT Drag Radial?

Would a Radial Slick be a good choice for a D/R car wanting to run a 10.5 slick only class, or would they be at a huge disadvantage compared to someone running a flexible/bias slick.

What type of spring or suspension tuning changes are often required if you switch between a stiff D/R and a flexible bias slick?

[Bob Curran]

Correct!
Bob Curran has been fighting to keep them out for years.
He seems to run the show over there as far as XS goes.
Don Barnett

I run the show in X/S yeah ok, Just because I am very active in the class I Choose to run based on the current rules. Many other racers that have been supporting this series since it started share my same opinion. I don't go cry and whine to have my combo added to a class I choose a class and have my car setup for that class. A drag radial has many places to race, a single stage nitrous sbc on a true 10.5 does not. I am certainly not shy about my position on the DR in X/S, and just a little history lesson, the DR was allowed a couple years ago and how many showed up all year with them, one person that was it. The rule states this is for cars competing on a true 10.5 slick meeting certain specs, the DR they wanted to cross over would not meet those specs. just as a turbo is not in the rules. If you want to run a drag radial class feel free, I am sure you could find one locally. I would love to run a couple drag radial events, oh but they typically only allow stock suspension no ladder bars allowed even at a weight penalty, but we know the limiting factor is the tire, actually PSCA allows a ladder bar to run in there class with a DR, little too far to go with the price of fuel nowadays.

[Blownbird]

:smt083 Point well taken.

As stated earlier 1QuickBird, drag radials are not and will not, be permited in XS.

[John Lowe]

Correct!
Bob Curran has been fighting to keep them out for years.
He seems to run the show over there as far as XS goes.
Don Barnett

Bob does not run the show, he is part of the show.

[FSC Aaron]

Gotta admit, yes Bob does make the rules for X/S. You can tell by him winning the championship the last 4 years in a row....oh, wait a minute:rolleyes:

Blownbird, of you want a class to fit your rules feel free to find me a sponsor and 15-30 cars that will show up at all events and we'll have a deal.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Aaron Hahn
NMCA

[Bob Curran]

You won't find a higher quality car than John's in X/S that is one nice piece he competes with!


Bob does not run the show, he is part of the show.

Aaron, we need to do something about the 4 years in a row! LOL

[FSC Aaron]

Aaron, we need to do something about the 4 years in a row! LOL

All you gotta do is change the rules Bob. ;)

[John Lowe]

[quote=Bob Curran;779313]You won't find a higher quality car than John's in X/S that is one nice piece he competes with!




:oops: Thanks

J.L

[Blownbird]

Gotta admit, yes Bob does make the rules for X/S. You can tell by him winning the championship the last 4 years in a row....oh, wait a minute:rolleyes:

Blownbird, of you want a class to fit your rules feel free to find me a sponsor and 15-30 cars that will show up at all events and we'll have a deal.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Aaron Hahn
NMCA


My car does fit your rules, and I have competed in XS.

I do know that your car count would go up if the DR was an approved tire. Look at all the NMRA RD guys that have been asking for it for years! They would love to cross over to your series! It has been a topic on your own board many of times.
What or WHO is holding this rule back?

Aaron simply take a poll on your own board and see what the consensus is! Would you even consider that?

Thanks

[FSC Aaron]

Sorry, but an internet poll really wouldn't give an accurate example of who would show. Personally I have nothing against DR cars, but I'm also not on the rules board. I can tell you they were legal and only one car that I can remember came over (I believe it was in Maple Grove, a black Mustang maybe?). DR also allows Turbos so the minute we try and accomodate some DR guys the rest will cry "foul".

BTW:Kurgan seems to be able to come over from DR and run XS succesfully...

The main thing is that we all know that the class is succesfull right now...so why change it?

Not sure what combination you're running, but I do hope you can fit in with us somewhere.

[jeff conley]

Bob Kurgan Crosses over from the NMRA and wins. There are other guys that fit the class that can cross over they just do not wish to do so, why I do not know.

[Jim Craig]

Sorry, but an internet poll really wouldn't give an accurate example of who would show. Personally I have nothing against DR cars, but I'm also not on the rules board. I can tell you they were legal and only one car that I can remember came over (I believe it was in Maple Grove, a black Mustang maybe?). ***DR also allows Turbos*** so the minute we try and accomodate some DR guys the rest will cry "foul".

BTW:Kurgan seems to be able to come over from DR and run XS succesfully...

The main thing is that we all know that the class is succesfull right now...so why change it?

Not sure what combination you're running, but I do hope you can fit in with us somewhere.

Ya, and that's a whole 'nother can of worms you just don't want to open -- at least that how it looks on your ford site........

Is it that the radial's reputation makes these vehicles not wanted in E/S or what? Bobby's the only one that has easily crossed over and what would really happen if you let him keep his radials -- would he really be that much faster? I don't see that as much of a change especially if you keep the same tire limitations. There are alot of drag radial Nitrous guys out there always looking for a race and I don't think their that much faster (if at all) then your front runners.

Face it -- Extreme Street is a 7.90 / 8.00 class how you get there is your business, your rules are strict enough everywhere else (engine, trans, suspension, etc). What's wrong with exploring the possibilites of allowing DR's without changing anything else -- hell you might even end up with a few more cars.

[FSC Aaron]

The main thing is that we all know that the class is succesfull right now...so why change it?

I'll just say it again.

[John Lowe]

Here is where I get confused. Guys that run D/R want to crossover to a class like X/S that clearly allows ladder bar cars. But when a guy with a ladder bar car wants run D/R no one seems to want that either. I have nothing against any D/R classes it just seems like a double standard.


:rolleyes:
J.L.

[Blownbird]

Here is where I get confused. Guys that run D/R want to crossover to a class like X/S that clearly allows ladder bar cars. But when a guy with a ladder bar car wants run D/R no one seems to want that either. I have nothing against any D/R classes it just seems like a double standard.


:rolleyes:
J.L.


I guess you are confused as to why stock suspension cars get a weight break also.:rolleyes:

[MV50]

I'll just say it again.

It was changed! I started running XS in 06 and radials were allowed. Remember??
That said I'm think if anyone wants to run XS they can just put slicks on have at it. Bob Kurgan seems just as capable running on slicks as well as radials.
In 06 I went to the finals in Memphis (on radials) and they were outlawed the next year. I had a little fun bitching about that but the slicks will be on for BG and hopefully be able to figure them out.

[matukas]

I dont understand. DR cars come on over to XS. put a slick on it and race. Kolivas and akins you have to stay home. lol everyone else is welcome ;)

[smav347]

What's up Steve? BG is going to be sick.

[John Lowe]

I guess you are confused as to why stock suspension cars get a weight break also.:rolleyes:

No I can't say that I'm

[Brians_daddy]

I guess you are confused as to why stock suspension cars get a weight break also.:rolleyes:

not true at all... put on coilovers and you lose your stock suspension break. I know Kurgan runs at the same weight as the ladderbar/4link cars like Bartholme.

[matukas]

Jake, really looking forward to BG. Going testing next week there hopfully to see some 7 sec. passes. Stop by a drink some beer with us:smt082

[dave rudisell]

I raced radial tire class and put on a pair of slicks on my ole beater and won the very first event for XS. I sure do miss those days..........sorry had to brag and reminise.......Have fun.
P.S. After all these years i can't believe those NMRA Radial guys are still crying, LOL That'll stir the pot!!
Bob Curran forever, NMRA Never!!

[Darling]

I raced radial tire class and put on a pair of slicks on my ole beater and won the very first event for XS. I sure do miss those days..........sorry had to brag and reminise.......Have fun.
P.S. After all these years i can't believe those NMRA Radial guys are still crying, LOL That'll stir the pot!!
Bob Curran forever, NMRA Never!!

Damn - I can't believe you posted Rudy... How the hell are ya???