No More Testing before race

[Jim Craig]

What prompted this? Was someone unfairly getting a shot at the tracks before the general public?

[gasguzzler]

Hi Jim,

I think it was thoroughly covered on the NMRA forum with the Hot Street guys.

- Brian

[John Langer]

IMO, if someone has to continually rent tracks right before an event, that is OK with me.
1) This must be the only time they test.
2) They don't have that much data to work off of other then what is happening 3 days prior to qualifying so if weather conditions drastically change over the weekend, they are screwed.
3) If they tear up their stuff on Wednesday, they will be working their butts off to get it fixed while i'm enjoying a few cold ones.
4) The track on Wednesday will not be the same track come Saturday, i.e. the slew of drag radial cars that tear up the starting line.

[Chris Uratchko]

Not sure how I feel about it really.

On one had if someone wants to test I'm not sure that is any of my business.

On the other hand, not everyone has the opportunity to take off work for a week before every event....

I dunno... :smt102

[HS 3131]

Gentlemen, You can test all you want. If you choose to test the week of a event you will have to carry 25# for the advantage you will get from testing at that track. I think it a good policy change.

[Butch Kemp]

Gentlemen, You can test all you want. If you choose to test the week of a event you will have to carry 25# for the advantage you will get from testing at that track. I think it a good policy change.

x2
Come to think of it, I think they should have quals on friday night, and race on saturday, that way we can drive home on sunday, instead of going 90 to try and make work monday.

[Chris Uratchko]

X1000 on the friday/saturday

[HS 3131]

Saturday is for drinking beer,lets not mess with that.

[Ben]

Gentlemen, You can test all you want. If you choose to test the week of a event you will have to carry 25# for the advantage you will get from testing at that track. I think it a good policy change.

Is that 25 lbs if you want to test at the track the event is going to be held at, or at any track anywhere?

[Boweevil]

Is that 25 lbs if you want to test at the track the event is going to be held at, or at any track anywhere?

Only for testing at the event venue. You may test elsewhere with no penalty.

[Chris Uratchko]

Saturday is for drinking beer,lets not mess with that.


Yeah you NMRA guys know how to party from what I hear... :drinkers:

[kevinp]

x2
Come to think of it, I think they should have quals on friday night, and race on saturday, that way we can drive home on sunday, instead of going 90 to try and make work monday.

Even if they just did 1st and 2nd round on Saturday so they could get things wrapped up at a reasonable time on Sunday it wouldnt be bad.

[Chris Uratchko]

The hard part is when things go wrong on Sunday and you end up racing until midnight, then the long drive home.... thrash to get to work... it's not easy forsure. Both options have their goods and bads.

[sb73dart]

My brother brought this to my attention today. We are behind the field anyway so it probably will not make a difference. Our opinions were mixed. For example: we live an hour from Bradenton and there normal test n tune night is Thursday. If we go test on Thursday like we usually do before the Bradenton opener, we will have to carry an extra 25lbs. Unfortunately, there will be the usual mix of street cars and race cars testing so the track will be less than ideal. Not to mention you are lucky to get 2 runs unless you rush around and wear your car out. To that end it is hardly worth the penalty for the data you will receive. As someone pointed out earlier, race day track prep is always much better. May be better to take advantage of the Saturday test sessions most tracks usually have before qualifying. My .02

[Kelly Pelrine]

25lbs cuz you want to test is ridiculous no matter where you go to do it. This is drag racing, nothing is ever fair LOL. Ive heard it all now.

[Brandon Alsept]

Hey better than NHRA if you test at a track a week prior you can not even Qualify LOL;)

[f/s 4valve]

My brother brought this to my attention today. We are behind the field anyway so it probably will not make a difference. Our opinions were mixed. For example: we live an hour from Bradenton and there normal test n tune night is Thursday. If we go test on Thursday like we usually do before the Bradenton opener, we will have to carry an extra 25lbs. Unfortunately, there will be the usual mix of street cars and race cars testing so the track will be less than ideal. Not to mention you are lucky to get 2 runs unless you rush around and wear your car out. To that end it is hardly worth the penalty for the data you will receive. As someone pointed out earlier, race day track prep is always much better. May be better to take advantage of the Saturday test sessions most tracks usually have before qualifying. My .02

i dont know what series you run but thursday is our normal test and tune in the nmra.





25lbs cuz you want to test is ridiculous no matter where you go to do it. This is drag racing, nothing is ever fair LOL. Ive heard it all now

shut up kelly:-D

[Kelly Pelrine]

shut up kelly:-D

:p Steve you need to learn how to quote

[Jason Reiss]

:p Steve you need to learn how to quote


it's enough he can even figure out how to turn on the computer. :smt077

[Kelly Pelrine]

it's enough he can even figure out how to turn on the computer. :smt077
hehe this is true :-D

[f/s 4valve]

:p Steve you need to learn how to quote




shut up kelly.

[Kelly Pelrine]

shut up kelly.
Does this mean im your new crew chief? LOL

[Greg2]

x2
Come to think of it, I think they should have quals on friday night, and race on saturday, that way we can drive home on sunday, instead of going 90 to try and make work monday.

I that suggested to a couple of 'street legal' organizations two years ago when I still worked at Dart. I still haven't seen any of them try it.

[Chris Uratchko]

NMCA has tried it a few times and I don't know how successfull it's been.

How 'bout a 1 day event. If Milan can do it so can NMCA.

[John Langer]

The longer the event is, the more people have to pass thru the gate = more money. It is a simple business decision, you can't fault it. If you don't like it, claim you either sold you car or retired again for the 3rd time and still be in Bradenton in March :)

[Chris Uratchko]

The longer the event is, the more people have to pass thru the gate = more money. It is a simple business decision, you can't fault it. If you don't like it, claim you either sold you car or retired again for the 3rd time and still be in Bradenton in March :)


I'm not sure what you mean by that I think we're just expressing ideas. It's like your 75 pound hit. If you don't like it.........

That's actually not true on how long the event is.

More time does not equal more people. Less time equals more people.

Why do you think places the typical sports venue packs them in? Heck the Lions can't win a game and sell out... why? People can come to an 'event' and see the whole thing beginning to conclusion in a few hours time. And then get on with their life.

Nascar- same deal.

Our Milan event? Same deal. Folks can come in see the beginning to end in one night. They get more spectators in one event than multiple events that we attend.

When Milan tries to do the multiple day deal, they never draw the same crowd..... I think these days folks are too busy in their lives to give a weekend or even a whole day of time to something like watching what we're doing.

That's my opinion. Has nothing to do with 'whether I like it or not'.

[John Langer]

You missed the cynicalism on the retiring/selling comment.

[George Klass]

Chris, here's one to think about. When NHRA releases the attendance figures for a National event, they count the number of spectators times the number of days they attended. For instance, if you purchase a 3-day ticket (Friday, Saturday and Sunday), you are counted as three people.

[Kelly Pelrine]

Chris, here's one to think about. When NHRA releases the attendance figures for a National event, they count the number of spectators times the number of days they attended. For instance, if you purchase a 3-day ticket (Friday, Saturday and Sunday), you are counted as three people.

Does that go towards the over all count or per day? I can see if someone buys a 3 day ticket and shows up each day, but not everyone does. Very interesting trickery lol. Either way NHRA doesnt seem to have issues with getting spectators. Me on the other hand, :rolleyes: i need all the help i can get but id prefer to base it on real numbers not inflated ones.

[George Klass]

Well, let's just say that it's not an accurate head count and let it go at that. But to some extent, it does make sense. If a guy buys a 1-day ticket, he is counted as one person, a 2-day ticket, as two people and a 3-day ticket as three people. But if he shows up for day two or day three, he has two or three chances to have his eyeballs "see" the sponsors ads and promotions. From that perspective, I understand it. Everything is about the "eyeballs", not just how many there are in total, but how many there are each day.

This is not that unique in the entertainment business, Kelly. The same "accounting" practices are used in two or three day concerts, too.

[Chris Uratchko]

You missed the cynicalism on the retiring/selling comment.


I got it about 3 hours later :-Yap

[Kelly Pelrine]

Well, let's just say that it's not an accurate head count and let it go at that. But to some extent, it does make sense. If a guy buys a 1-day ticket, he is counted as one person, a 2-day ticket, as two people and a 3-day ticket as three people. But if he shows up for day two or day three, he has two or three chances to have his eyeballs "see" the sponsors ads and promotions. From that perspective, I understand it. Everything is about the "eyeballs", not just how many there are in total, but how many there are each day.

This is not that unique in the entertainment business, Kelly. The same "accounting" practices are used in two or three day concerts, too.

Yep i agree. And i dont doubt the last sentence one bit :)