ProStock progress report

[Chris Uratchko]

Anyone care to share where they are on their winter projects?


Our progress is starting to accelerate a little. Have everything to start getting the engine together. New rear housing is fit into the car. About ready to start emptying everything out of the interior so we can start wiring it. Have to send out the fuel pump to Aerospace for some updates...

That's about it for us still a lot of little things to do...

[John Langer]

I have spent the last 5 weeks and 4 cases of beer installing a winch in my trailer. Another couple of weeks and it will be finished. I also went to Pep Boys and bough a couple of those pine tree air fresheners. Bradenton is right around the corner. I was thinking about buying a new set of spark plugs but dont know if it is in the budget with all the money spent on beer while putting the winch in.

[Chris Uratchko]

Winch? We like to drive our car into the trailer. I understand it's a pontiac though and maybe you need a winch to get it back in the trailer.... :smt118

[John Langer]

Nah, i'm a fat bastard and cant get out the dooriof the car in the trailer :)

[Driven2xs]

I only have EVERYTHING left to do. Chassis being cert'd Thursday.

[BWise]

loosing weight is the main goal, just 200lbs to go! :)

[John Langer]

loosing weight is the main goal, just 200lbs to go! :)

i'll take 75 from ya.

[Chris Uratchko]

Ooops I mean Aeromotive for the fuel pump doh!!

All I can say is that it is a good thing I don't need to be 2800 anymore....... getting old is a bitch!!

[Jeff Chandler]

I'm pretty much ready except for the headers. I drop the car off for headers on the 23rd of this month. Oh yeah, gotta change the oil in the RV

[Butch Kemp]

I'm pretty much ready except for the headers. I drop the car off for headers on the 23rd of this month. Oh yeah, gotta change the oil in the RV

Must be nice!!!!!!!!Being almost ready that is.

[Chris Uratchko]

:p

[MattSwindle]

tryin' to keep money flowin' to Chris for the motor...
the Wife's only workin' one job though..so it's been comin' outa
the beer budget...aaarrrrgggg...

the dash is done and the new gages installed..
almost have the seats done...
got my k-member finished and ready for the BBC..
today I started on cutting out the cowl area...what a pain in the ass..
all huddled up in the engine bay with my cut-off wheel..
it's not gonna be fun fabbing the sheet metal up to finish that off..

still have to get the rear upgraded ,,and redo all the brake lines..
also...have the rest of the electrical to do..
hope to get it to the header shop in 3-4 weeks..
I'm shooting for the Bowling Green race..if everything goes..just right..!

Hey Chris..there's a great place in the cowl area for a nitrous bottle...
you have those bottle brackets made yet...?..LOL

[Chris Uratchko]

You better just keep cuttin on that firewall.... no sideways carbs!! LOL

[dwmotorsports]

Motor is apart with pieces all over the country interior is apart while installing my OEM dash looks like I will be putting the engine back in the car in Disney worlds parking lot thursday night before heading to the track

[Mike DeMayo jr]

ill be testing by 3pm today as long as i get the paint on

[Chris Uratchko]

What was wrong with the old paint???

[Mike DeMayo jr]

What was wrong with the old paint???

We had to open the wheel well up in the fall before we went to Vegas so we could run the 29.5 tire and the shade of orange that we had on the car was almost impossible to match so the rear fenders were a shade off. Rather than try to match the orange again, i just said the heck with it and painted it a color we can match if we need to.

I thought about a rap but they're a little pricey. I heard they were like $4000 ?

[Ben Mens]

Rap? $4,000? No that's a fiddy cent ain't it? :)

[Mike DeMayo jr]

Rap? $4,000? No that's a fiddy cent ain't it? :)

:shock:

[John Langer]

Sunday update, went to Walmart and they had 17 qts of trans fluid, I'll be eating peanut butter sandwitchs all week but I got them all. :)

[Jeff Chandler]

17 qts? Did you buy a deep pan for that Pro-Flite:-D

[Butch Kemp]

Sunday update, went to Walmart and they had 17 qts of trans fluid, I'll be eating peanut butter sandwitchs all week but I got them all. :)

sandwiches??? I thought spaghetti'O's were a treat??

[Butch Kemp]

17 qts? Did you buy a deep pan for that Pro-Flite:-D

He has a P/G now, back to where he was last year " weight" almost, the torque should pull it fine

[Chris Uratchko]

Sunday update, went to Walmart and they had 17 qts of trans fluid, I'll be eating peanut butter sandwitchs all week but I got them all. :)


That's pretty funny! I cleared the shelf there myself. 1.44 a quart. How 'bout you?

[Chris Uratchko]

He has a P/G now, back to where he was last year " weight" almost, the torque should pull it fine


He said all year it didn't matter where he shifted....

[Butch Kemp]

He said all year it didn't matter where he shifted....

Exactly, so why not run a PG??? take the 50 back off.

[John Langer]

1.88 ea. here. Hummm, glide, 1.64 first gear, 3 high gear clutchs. I could sell one of my pro-flites and get 2 of them, that would last me a weekend.

[HS 3131]

I seem to get 11 passes out of my glide before something happens. 1.64 gear huh? Wonder if anyone has tried that before.

[Chris Uratchko]

That's usually a nitrous trans so it's perfect for John. :rock:

[Jeff Chandler]

Good one Chris, I still can't understand how with nitrous he still only won 2 races

[Ben Mens]

Good one Chris, I still can't understand how with nitrous he still only won 2 races

Cheap solenoids ? :)

[HS 3131]

I heard the NMCA has a new snifer to check all the Pro Stock cars for Nitrous after a pass. Just like they use to detect AC leaks. There gonna check right at the return road.

[Jeff Chandler]

That won't work Tim, John will have inhaled the whole bottle by then.

[John Langer]

I couldn't get a good read on my plugs with the FUEL I was running. :)

[John Langer]

Monday update... I just scored a can of flat black engine paint from the warehouse at my work, gonna re-paint my block. Try to keep this on the down low so I don't get any heat from my boss. :)

[Mike DeMayo jr]

Monday update... I just scored a can of flat black engine paint from the warehouse at my work, gonna re-paint my block. Try to keep this on the down low so I don't get any heat from my boss. :)

put a sbf wrap on it. Thats what i did

[Chris Uratchko]

Got any updated paint pics??

[John Langer]

Got any updated paint pics??

Who me? It is too cold to paint the block this week, maybe some pic's next week it is suppose to be around 50* here this weekend. I can get a cool shot of the can of paint sitting on top of an empty 55-gallon drum if you want.

[Chris Uratchko]

:roll: Yeah I want to see a flat black block!!! :D

I meant Demayo!

[Mike DeMayo jr]

i hope your further along than me Ben :yawinkle:

[HotStreet3134]

The black looks good Mike!

[John Langer]

Tuesday update... Got my taxes done last night, thank god for the $600 tax credit, I see a case of oil in my future. :) Things are really starting to come together.

[D. Murray]

I seem to get 11 passes out of my glide before something happens. 1.64 gear huh? Wonder if anyone has tried that before.

Wow! Went a full season on mine. Other then trying some gears we had laying around it held together.

[HS 3131]

Wow! Went a full season on mine. Other then trying some gears we had laying around it held together.

Well I dont think 9,700 RPM helps it to much. Hopefully have it so it will hold together now. Maybe its time for that extra gear.

[Mike DeMayo jr]

Well I dont think 9,700 RPM helps it to much. Hopefully have it so it will hold together now. Maybe its time for that extra gear.

I got the extra gear your lookin for. Light weight Rossler with clean neutral, just freshened up $4900

[HS 3131]

I got the extra gear your lookin for. Light weight Rossler with clean neutral, just freshened up $4900

Whats the First gear ratio?

[Mike DeMayo jr]

Whats the First gear ratio?

2.10

[HS 3131]

2.10

We need to talk...

[John Langer]

Wednesday update... Still too cold to paint the block put I did pull the rear tires and scrape the rubber out of the wheel wells. I'm going to have to find a place to hang the 3lbs I took off.

[HS 3131]

Wednesday update... Still too cold to paint the block put I did pull the rear tires and scrape the rubber out of the wheel wells. I'm going to have to find a place to hang the 3lbs I took off.

Drink more beer,that will get the weight back on.

[Naturally Aspirated 1965]

Im waiting on heads and intake from arkansas and have a ? have a 65 mustang with a 436 cid ladder bars and power glide what weight do I have to weigh :smt102

[Chris Uratchko]

Depends on the cylinder heads.

[Naturally Aspirated 1965]

7721 victors

[John Langer]

I think 2875lbs?

[Mike DeMayo jr]

Im waiting on heads and intake from arkansas and have a ? have a 65 mustang with a 436 cid ladder bars and power glide what weight do I have to weigh :smt102

Base 3025 -75 nostalgia weight break -50 power glide = 2900+100# for the heads= 3000#

[John Langer]

My mistake, I was looking at a 420cid motor. Man that is a soft weight for that combo.

[Dr. Detroit]

Langer, you bidding on this to put a single high hat on it???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-1969-TRANS-AM-OR-JUDGE-FACTORY-CROSSRAM-RAM-AIR-V_W0QQitemZ360022170713QQihZ023QQcategoryZ10076QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-1969-TRANS-AM-OR-JUDGE-FACTORY-CROSSRAM-RAM-AIR-V_W0QQitemZ360022170713QQihZ023QQcategoryZ10076QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)



j/k lol....:rolleyes:

[John Langer]

Langer, you bidding on this to put a single high hat on it???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-1969-TRANS-AM-OR-JUDGE-FACTORY-CROSSRAM-RAM-AIR-V_W0QQitemZ360022170713QQihZ023QQcategoryZ10076QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-1969-TRANS-AM-OR-JUDGE-FACTORY-CROSSRAM-RAM-AIR-V_W0QQitemZ360022170713QQihZ023QQcategoryZ10076QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)



j/k lol....:rolleyes:

Nah, I'm not going to do anything to the motor over the winter. I have found that my hard work just ends with weight penalties.

[John Langer]

Friday update... I couldn't wait any longer and painted the block last night even though it was pretty cold in my laundry room. I disconnected the vent from my dryer and got the room a toasty 68*.

[John Langer]

Friday update... I couldn't wait any longer and painted the block last night even though it was pretty cold in my laundry room. I disconnected the vent from my dryer and got the room a toasty 68*.

2:30 update... paint held up, wooohoooo, I plan on spending the rest of the afternoon finishing the beer left over from the trailer work and scraping the #1 off the car and putting the new #2 on it. If time permits I might get those new 2008 NMCA decals on the windows as well.

[jeff conley]

:supz:

[BWise]

Friday update... I couldn't wait any longer and painted the block last night even though it was pretty cold in my laundry room. I disconnected the vent from my dryer and got the room a toasty 68*.


Flat black, satin, or high gloss?:drinkers:

[TA Dave]

Hey John, I was going to try and help out this year by picking up your beer tab. Then logic hit and I figured it would be cheaper to pick up your fuel bill. :p

[Dr. Detroit]

Hey John, I was going to try and help out this year by picking up your beer tab. Then logic hit and I figured it would be cheaper to pick up your fuel bill. :p
Better feed him water, Langer gains weight just by showing up!!!:smt115

[John Langer]

Flat black, satin, or high gloss?:drinkers:

High gloss, that's all they had in the warehouse.

[Chris Uratchko]

My mistake, I was looking at a 420cid motor. Man that is a soft weight for that combo.


3000 is a soft weight?? Tell me how many times a small block has won a race in the last 3 seasons?

[Dr. Detroit]

AH.. Shit here we phuckin go again!!!:rolleyes:
CMAFR:poor ole itty bitty Sb chebby...:(





















lol... ;)

[Chris Uratchko]

You pontyack guys always cryin for more weight break!! :D

[Dr. Detroit]

You pontyack guys always cryin for more weight break!! :D
lol...:p

[John Langer]

3000 is a soft weight?? Tell me how many times a small block has won a race in the last 3 seasons?

Does a sbf count as a small block? Or are you asking how many times a URE engine won a race?

[Chris Uratchko]

You didn't answer the question!:D

Refresh my memory if I am wrong. But since 2005, there have only been 2 small blocks to win a race? One SBC and one SBF.

The real question, is if that Pontyack is a small block. Seeing it needs to run at a small block weight!! :smt110

[Bob M]

I have spent the last 5 weeks and 4 cases of beer installing a winch in my trailer. Another couple of weeks and it will be finished. I also went to Pep Boys and bough a couple of those pine tree air fresheners. Bradenton is right around the corner. I was thinking about buying a new set of spark plugs but dont know if it is in the budget with all the money spent on beer while putting the winch in.
Wait a minute, shouldn't the wench be bringing you the beer?

Oh.........never mind.:)

[John Langer]

You didn't answer the question!:D

Refresh my memory if I am wrong. But since 2005, there have only been 2 small blocks to win a race? One SBC and one SBF.

The real question, is if that Pontyack is a small block. Seeing it needs to run at a small block weight!! :smt110

Over the last 3 years, how many races have a sb attended? What is the percentage of final round appearances for those sb's? I think the sb's did fine, they just couldn't close the deal.

[Chris Uratchko]

Ack... you're wearin me out.:rolleyes::D

[Jeff Chandler]

New headers, valve springs, cam, trans(super, super, SUPER low drag), rearend housing, centersection, ladder bars, axles, driveshaft, Racecraft k-member, a-arms, c/c plates and some new Racepak add-ons. Oh yeah, 25 less pounds....Thanks NMCA:)

[HS 3131]

New headers, valve springs, cam, trans(super, super, SUPER low drag), rearend housing, centersection, ladder bars, axles, driveshaft, Racecraft k-member, a-arms, c/c plates and some new Racepak add-ons. Oh yeah, 25 less pounds....Thanks NMCA:)

Jeff, Watch out for those super low drag Glides,they break alot. Maybe won't be so bad this year with 25# off though.

[Dr. Detroit]

New headers, valve springs, cam, trans(super, super, SUPER low drag), rearend housing, centersection, ladder bars, axles, driveshaft, Racecraft k-member, a-arms, c/c plates and some new Racepak add-ons. Oh yeah, 25 less pounds....Thanks NMCA:)
Fewwwww...Total rebuild??
I wondered where the hell you been hiding. You been quiet and busy!!! :smt023

[Mike DeMayo jr]

New headers, valve springs, cam, trans(super, super, SUPER low drag), rearend housing, centersection, ladder bars, axles, driveshaft, Racecraft k-member, a-arms, c/c plates and some new Racepak add-ons. Oh yeah, 25 less pounds....Thanks NMCA:)

Better hope it dont go to fast or you can add a shiny new chunk of lead to the list !!

[Ben Mens]

If them things get any weight added they'll need 10 ply tires!

[Mike DeMayo jr]

Yea it would be nice to see 100# taken off across the board from the base weights

Would make things safer. Its not like the 360 combo is a option in this class anyway

[Jeff Chandler]

10 plys?? Will those pass the go to hell gauge?:)

[John Langer]

New headers, valve springs, cam, trans(super, super, SUPER low drag), rearend housing, centersection, ladder bars, axles, driveshaft, Racecraft k-member, a-arms, c/c plates and some new Racepak add-ons. Oh yeah, 25 less pounds....Thanks NMCA:)

That's WAY too much work to have to do and money spent for a sportsman class.

[John Langer]

Monday update... New NMCA stickers are on the car but I was drunk when doing it. The drivers side is real crooked. Any one know were I can get an extra one? That tight ass Harmon will probabally charge me like 5 bucks for one. :)

[Ben Mens]

10 plys?? Will those pass the go to hell gauge?:)


Sure will, they do not hardly squish out at all !

[HS 3131]

10 plys?? Will those pass the go to hell gauge?:)

The proper name of the tool is MFTG.

[jeff conley]

We have some brand new MFTG's to use down in Florida.

[HS 3131]

We have some brand new MFTG's to use down in Florida.

Everybody is in trouble. Heard Charlie made them himself.

[MachineHead]

We're installing a new cage, the trans is rebuilt, new valve springs and a bunch of little stuff.........that' about it for this year.

As far as your ProStock number, is that something that will be assigned to us at our first race, or, should we contact NMCA and get that all straightened out beforehand?? Our first NMCA race will be Atco.

Thanks,
Steve

[Jeff Chandler]

Steve, I would contact the NMCA beforehand.

[John Langer]

Tueday update... I cleaned up all of the beer cans from this weekend. I'm still looking for a 2008 NMCA decal, no luck so far on ebay. Installed a new piece of duct tape that holds my shift light to my dash, the old one was getting a little weather worn. I might put some air in the tires tonight to roll the car into my driveway, there are still a few cans in those hard to reach areas under the car.

[FSC Aaron]

John,
I can send ya a few decals. Just return the favor with a cold beer in FL for me:p

[John Langer]

John,
I can send ya a few decals. Just return the favor with a cold beer in FL for me:p

I'm still working a few angle but will keep you in mind. Matukas might get pissed if I ran out of beer in FL by giving them away. Thanks for looking out. :)

[BACARTY]

I'm still working a few angle but will keep you in mind. Matukas might get pissed if I ran out of beer in FL by giving them away. Thanks for looking out. :)



he might get pissed.....
-shit im coming to you when everyone else runs out:p

[MachineHead]

Thanks Jeff.......

[John Langer]

Thursday update... I actually rotated the rear tires before filling them with air to get the beer cans out from under the car. I actually had enough cans to go to the recycling center. I got $3.72 for which I bought a can if white paint. I saw on tv that it is a well know cheap speed secret to paint the bottom side of an intake to keep it cool to make more power. I'll keep everyone posted on the results. :)

[MachineHead]

Shit John, from the sounds of it, I would have thought you would have gotten $37.20 for all those beer cans...you might want to try a different recycling center :)

[John Langer]

That was just what was under the car. I'm not going to test the car before Bradenton but I have been testing the hell out of my liver :)

[Jason Reiss]

That was just what was under the car. I'm not going to test the car before Bradenton but I have been testing the hell out of my liver :)

Testing it for what, cirrhosis?

[John Langer]

Testing it for what, cirrhosis?

Your welcome to come over any night and throw cans under the car. Just make sure they are completely empty first, I don't like the smell of stale beer on my floor.

[Jason Reiss]

If you need a hand working on it, just give me a call...I'm sure I can assist you with your recycling efforts.

[jeff conley]

Jason When Are you moving to the Frozen tundra.

[John Langer]

If you need a hand working on it, just give me a call...I'm sure I can assist you with your recycling efforts.

Hey, you know where I live, the garage light is always on. :)

[Jason Reiss]

Maybe I'll have to pop on by later.

[Jim Craig]

Everybody is in trouble. Heard Charlie made them himself.

Speaking of Charlie -- couldn't they have gotten a better picture of him for that article on Competiton Plus -- looks a little like Alfred E. Neuman in that shot.

[Jason Reiss]

Speaking of Charlie -- couldn't they have gotten a better picture of him for that article on Competiton Plus -- looks a little like Alfred E. Neuman in that shot.

That was the best one of him that I had to supply Bobby with. I tried to use this one, but Scott said no....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/rp0208interlead.jpg

[Jim Craig]

That was the best one of him that I had to supply Bobby with. I tried to use this one, but Scott said no....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/rp0208interlead.jpg

Now that looks a little like "Mr. Ed" -- you kids know who that was??

[Trace Meyer]

Now that looks a little like "Mr. Ed" -- you kids know who that was??

whaaaadya saaayyyy wil----bur?

[FSC Aaron]

Jim,

I think I heard my Grandpa mention him once...:smt082

[BACARTY]

john ill buy the beer if i get to come over drink them (making sure thier empty) and then watch you work on your car, and or get angry and frusterated working on the car and giving up and start drinking more

[John Langer]

john ill buy the beer if i get to come over drink them (making sure thier empty) and then watch you work on your car, and or get angry and frusterated working on the car and giving up and start drinking more

Who's workin on a car??? I'm working on putting that 75lbs in it. :)

[Ken Schertz]

John,

Thats 3 30 packs, 1 6 pack and a porch 40. With the weight of the glass bottle that should give you your 75 pounds.

[John Langer]

John,

Thats 3 30 packs, 1 6 pack and a porch 40. With the weight of the glass bottle that should give you your 75 pounds.

Ken,
How am I going to mount the glass bottle per NHRA regulations? I dont think I will be able to hold it and shift at the same time. :)

[HotStreet3134]

Ken,
How am I going to mount the glass bottle per NHRA regulations? I dont think I will be able to hold it and shift at the same time. :)
Buy cans and use a straw. Lol!

[John Langer]

Buy cans and use a straw. Lol!

I need one of those kid sippie cups that dont spill if I have another wheel stand.

[HotStreet3134]

I need one of those kid sippie cups that dont spill if I have another wheel stand.
Yeah! One with some sort of check valve so you don't have beer coming out of your nose when it comes down.:drinkers:

[John Langer]

Sunday update... My girlfriend was sitting in my car on Friday night making race car sounds but unfortunately with a cigarette in her mouth. When I walked into the garage and saw what she was doing, i yelled at her, she dropped the cancer stick and the carpet went up like a section 8 house in North Philly. Burned the carpet real good before I got it out. The carpet needs to be replaced, I didn't have this in the budget. I just dropped the car off at Ed's Trim Shop, I guess I will be going back to drinking Natural Light for a while. The good news is that with the car not at home, there is extra room in the garage for me and my buddies to "work" on the car (or drink more beer).

[wood338P]

major bummer John... at least your were able to get it under control before it got too ugly... I'll buy you a case of whatever you want at Rt.66 this summer.. ;)

[BACARTY]

unheard of john...

you girl friend messing up a trans am is like askin me for bud light.................................hell yes:p

[Sam Vincent]

Jeff, Watch out for those super low drag Glides,they break alot. Maybe won't be so bad this year with 25# off though.

You have never broken your's, just one burnt band. Have the same in my car and it isn't breaking. other than the 4340 output shaft at the end of the 06 season. it now has the same low drag lite weight part but with a 300M output.

[Sam Vincent]

Everybody is in trouble. Heard Charlie made them himself.

Was he sober?

[HS 3131]

You have never broken your's, just one burnt band. Have the same in my car and it isn't breaking. other than the 4340 output shaft at the end of the 06 season. it now has the same low drag lite weight part but with a 300M output.

Sam's right. Never broke parts just seem to go through bands. And one Coan converter.

[Sam Vincent]

Sam's right. Never broke parts just seem to go through bands. And one Coan converter.

Bands? You went through one band at Columbus. I think it was to tight before and been draging the entire time while high gear.

Get that thing together and GO TEST!

[D. Murray]

Bands? You went through one band at Columbus. I think it was to tight before and been draging the entire time while high gear.

Get that thing together and GO TEST!


He can't, he's spending to much time around the pool. :smt072

[Sam Vincent]

He can't, he's spending to much time around the pool. :smt072

I'm afraid you might be right.

[HS 3131]

Haven't been in the pool in awhile. Hard to test with no motor in the car. Weather does look good this week. If all goes my way should have the motor back in the car by Friday-Saturday.

[Sam Vincent]

Better be testing Friday or Saturday.

[HS 3131]

You better get your butt on a plane and come down....... You look yet?

[Sam Vincent]

You better get your butt on a plane and come down....... You look yet?

You better test this weekend, then I'll come down.

[John Langer]

Tuesday update... I picked the car up from Ed's trim shop but had to take it back to the painter. I guess when I had to move the drivers seat back due to being fat bastard, it shifted too much weight to the rear tires and they hit every where. I told my painter that I would just clearance everything with a 5lb sledge and he cringed. If ll goes well, I will be drinking in the garage, errr ahhh working on the car again this weekend.

[BACARTY]

john if thats a true story id Love to see your painters face... omg...... id piss myself

[John Langer]

john if thats a true story id Love to see your painters face... omg...... id piss myself

The story is 100% true and he knew that I would do it.

[MachineHead]

If all goes well, I will be drinking in the garage, errr ahhh working on the car again this weekend.

John, I love "working" in the garage. If you ever need a hand, let me know. I can bring some little 12oz "friends" along to help. :)

Steve

[John Langer]

John, I love "working" in the garage. If you ever need a hand, let me know. I can bring some little 12oz "friends" along to help. :)

Steve

All are welcome, this "racing" stuff is a group effort around here.

[Jason Reiss]

Poor Mikey Smith....

[John Langer]

Poor Mikey Smith....

I keep him busy with my deadlines.

[Jason Reiss]

I keep him busy with my deadlines.

You got him on retainer or something? LOL

[John Langer]

You got him on retainer or something? LOL

Something like that. :)

[BACARTY]

then people wonder y once cars go into his shop they end up missing for years.......
joe and john get thier shit repainted 4 times each year

[John Langer]

Thursday update... Picked the car up from the painter last night. Mike did a great job clearancing the inner stock tubs. We also put a front spoiler on the car, I don't really like it but all the fast cars have them on so it must be worth like a tenth or so.

[Dr. Detroit]

Thursday update... Picked the car up from the painter last night. Mike did a great job clearancing the inner stock tubs. We also put a front spoiler on the car, I don't really like it but all the fast cars have them on so it must be worth like a tenth or so.
WTF Langer...Shoot Some Pics Post Em Up!!!

[John Langer]

WTF Langer...Shoot Some Pics Post Em Up!!!

I have some pictures but they are too large and I can't reduce the size of them on my computer. The car basically looks the same on the outside, but the interior and chassis work are all new... and maybe a few things with the motor, trans, rear, etc :)

[Jason Reiss]

Email them to me, John. I can resize them for you....

[Dr. Detroit]

I have some pictures but they are too large and I can't reduce the size of them on my computer. The car basically looks the same on the outside, but the interior and chassis work are all new... and maybe a few things with the motor, trans, rear, etc :)Download this http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx)
put it on your computer..
Look for Image re-sizer its a handy little toy!!!



Steve :smt023

[Jason Reiss]

For Langer...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01809.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01808.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01807.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01806.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01805.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01804.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01803.jpg

[Dr. Detroit]

Man...love those old birds....this the new paint with front spoiler?
Don't see spoiler..

Langer...you should power coat them wheels Blue like the stripes!!!
That would be the shit... :supz:

[John Langer]

Those pictures were shot when I dropped the car off at Ed's Trim Shop during the blizzard of '08.

[John Langer]

Man...love those old birds....this the new paint with spoiler?
Don't see spoiler..

Langer...you should power coat them wheels Blue like the stripes!!!
That would be the shit... :supz:

We put the spoiler on last night. I thought about doing that with the rims.

[Brandon Alsept]

Or you could do a blue anodize like they did on what was it the 30th anniversary trans am, maybe a little darker blue. You know to keep with the Pontiac thing;)

[Dr. Detroit]

Well you still have time John...
I would still powder coat them..that anodize flakes off after a while looks like shit...powder coat is tough as nails.

Even Still Blue Wheels would look cool either way!!!

Nice Hot Rod John... :smt023

[Geistmitfahrer]

Well you still have time John...
I would still powder coat them..that anodize flakes off after a while looks like shit...powder coat is tough as nails.

Even Still Blue Wheels would look cool either way!!!

Nice Hot Rod John... :smt023

I have to agree with my partner John, The car would look really good. Still would like to see a pic with the spoiler. On another subject. Is there any word of NMCA allowing the new CV-1 heads from Roland racing? Nice ride John!

[david2]

John Langer, what spoiler did you get for your car? Any pics of it Iam trying to find one I like for mine.

[John Langer]

I got one of those Camaro/Firebird spoilers off of E-bay for $42.50 that comes with the mounting brackets. The supplied center mounting bracket doesnt come close to mounting to anything other then the crank pulley. We had to bend, cut and then weld it to get it to work. Other then that it bolted up pretty effortless. I will have to work on pictures for you.

[Jim Craig]

I'll be ready as soon as I can find someone to trade a real Pro Stock head /manifold setup for a NMCA legal head / manifold setup.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii47/wjc1959/Jcraig003.jpg?t=1204231654

[vrtical]

old Pontiac's rule. I always have been a fan of them. my friend in hs had an early 70's lemans with a 3spd, that car was blast to drive.

[Chris Uratchko]

The supplied center mounting bracket doesnt come close to mounting to anything other then the crank pulley. We had to bend, cut and then weld it to get it to work. Other then that it bolted up pretty effortless. I will have to work on pictures for you.


This one made me laugh... I had the same experience. Of course, we broke ours with a wheel stand and had to do it all a couple times now.

[Jagtec1]

I am thinking of putting one on my car. Wonder if it really helps with air control.

Car looks good John.

[John Langer]

Tuesday update... well nothing really to update, the car is sitting in the garage reaady to go test. The motor made like 1,300 hp on the dyno with the break in oil so I should be OK. Now my crew on the other hand... they have abandoned me for Hooters.

[Chris Uratchko]

1300? Not bad for a diesel. Isn't that the torque number?

[John Langer]

1300? Not bad for a diesel. Isn't that the torque number?

Nah, that was 1450 at 2200 rpm. I am just waiting to break in my new 2.32 rear gear. :)

[Gary Kubisch]

John...Please try not to make us wait that long for an update again!

Can't wait to hear how the spray paint works.

[Dr. Detroit]

Nah, that was 1450 at 2200 rpm. I am just waiting to break in my new 2.32 rear gear. :)
Boy you are asking for it Langer...
Wtf,, you trying to make them (chebby boys) pull a Nascar on you and limit carb size on the PonTon now or what???:p

[wood338P]

Just took the restrictor plate off, give the Red Dragon a little more air flow. Keep that on the down low... its not exactly street legal..."

HAHA:p

[BACARTY]

john how much are you spraying this year?

[John Langer]

john how much are you spraying this year?

Deffinately not as much as last year, or at least not keep it on as long, :)

[Chris Uratchko]

From the looks of your avatar, you need to make it multiple stage.... come out with a little less nitrous, bring it on after about 150 feet.

[John Langer]

that was 150' out

[Chris Uratchko]

LOL

[HotStreet3134]

that was 150' out
What did you expect from a 500hp kit?:butthead: J/K!

[BACARTY]

What did you expect from a 500hp kit?:butthead: J/K!


i told him to go with the progresive kit..but noooooooooooooo dont listen to the guy who drinks all the bud light-

[John Langer]

Go big or go home.

[gmracing355]

John,
Cant wait to see your car out again. Sweet ride you have there. And when Mike gets done with it will look even better. My nova turned out awesome after he got his hands on it. He does great work.
Greg

[BWise]

photo shop! :-D

[Dr. Detroit]

photo shop! :-D
Hahahahaha....:supz:

[Scott McMullen]

Can't wait for Bowling Green!!!

[John Langer]

Thursday update... It worked, it finally worked. I have been keeping my progress on the down low recently. I have been experimenting with a few things. My center section was leaking and I tried to take the easy way out the last few nights to cure the sepage. At first I tried orange perma-tex, that didn't work. I then tried an underwater epoxy, that didn't work either. My last ditch effort was perma-tex right stuff. As a few saw last year in Chicago, this stuff held my oil pan on without any bolts. It took no less then 4 people and 4 36" pry bars to get the pan off. Well I brought out the big guns again and it sealed it right up. The car is going to get aligned on Saturday and then off to Atco for some testing. :)

[Jagtec1]

The Right Stuff is some good sealer. Expensive, but it WORKS. It is a huge PITA to remove pans, and other components... and sucks to clean up....but no leaky!!

[TA Dave]

John didn't want to admit it, but the picture in his avatar was taken after one of his helpers cleaned up the empty beer cans from that weekend and put 'em all in the trunk...

The good news was he made enough at the recycling yard to pay for the damage.

[wood338P]

The good news was he made enough at the recycling yard to pay for the damage.


thats always a plus... if youre gonna pull a dime out, you damn well drop a penny back in LOL

[BACARTY]

Thursday update... It worked, it finally worked. I have been keeping my progress on the down low recently. I have been experimenting with a few things. My center section was leaking and I tried to take the easy way out the last few nights to cure the sepage. At first I tried orange perma-tex, that didn't work. I then tried an underwater epoxy, that didn't work either. My last ditch effort was perma-tex right stuff. As a few saw last year in Chicago, this stuff held my oil pan on without any bolts. It took no less then 4 people and 4 36" pry bars to get the pan off. Well I brought out the big guns again and it sealed it right up. The car is going to get aligned on Saturday and then off to Atco for some testing. :)


you not testing this weekend unless your putting on the rain bfg rain tires:rolleyes:

[John Langer]

you not testing this weekend unless your putting on the rain bfg rain tires:rolleyes:

Wasn't raining today. :) Jimmy took a bunch of pictures of the front spoiler on the car, he should send them to me tonight and I will forward them to Jason to post.

[Chris Uratchko]

Where was the car? At Hooters?

[Chris Uratchko]

did Matukas make the spoiler John? Wonder if he could make another one?

[BWise]

Wasn't raining today. :) Jimmy took a bunch of pictures of the front spoiler on the car, he should send them to me tonight and I will forward them to Jason to post.

Everybody loves Yimmy!

And........Your still the KING OF CHEAP! and you owe me $88.00 bucks! Bitch:rock:

[Dr. Detroit]

In case you missed it....lol

This is what I heard about Langers T/A Firebird today....from Hooters!

Bababababa Ba Ba Ooo Mow Mow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnfNhi-pZ68 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnfNhi-pZ68) :supz:

[John Langer]

did Matukas make the spoiler John? Wonder if he could make another one?

Nope, I got it off of e-bay. It was the kit from Texas that comes with the mounting brackets and hardware. It was I think $42.

[John Langer]

Where was the car? At Hooters?

The pictures kind of show where the car was. :) I sent the pictures to Reiss but who knows when he will convert them and post. I guess he is still down in Bradenton???

[Jason Reiss]

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01811.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01813.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01815.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01816.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01817.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01821.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w34/ownedbyhunter/Junk/Langer/DSC01824.jpg

[Butch Kemp]

Looks good Johnny.I dont know how long that spolier will last.
either from.
1. protest from 160+mph blast
2.big wheelstand
3.160=mph blast without protest.

[Jason Reiss]

Oh, and I am still in Florida. Goddamn sunburn...:smt097

[John Langer]

The spoiler isnt the lowest point on the car. There is a front x-member that is 3" off the ground that is the lowest point and should hit first. I dont want to have to put a new set of headers, trans and oil pan on the car again.

[Chris Uratchko]

Heck I've bought a couple of them spoilers... both broke.

Car looks awesome John. Car got a 'wash' eh? :D

[John Langer]

I don't clean'em, I paint'em.

[Chris Uratchko]

I'd like to see a shot of your xmember so I can copy it.

[John Langer]

The front? Well some things have to be kept a secret :)

[Dr. Detroit]

Got to Blue them wheels Langer!
Other then that looks Killer!!

:smt023

[Chris Uratchko]

The front? Well some things have to be kept a secret :)


Oh don't worry I'll be all over, or, I should say 'under' that thing in Florida.... been wanting to do something new with the xmember for a while.

[larry santucci]

The front? Well some things have to be kept a secret :)

Secret.............. come on now, you can't keep a secret.

[wood338P]

am i the only one who isnt into colored wheels? just get some polished auto drags and get a spray can of black chrome and you'll never even be able to tell they dont have spokes... plus if you ever bend one youre only out $4 dollars for the paint and $2.95 for the wheel ;)

[Chris Uratchko]

I was thinking about getting mine anodized violet like my stripes... or powerder coated..... can't picture it though whether it would look good or not.

[Jeff Chandler]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Chris

[wood338P]

HAHA... Sometimes they look good, but i have seen cars that looked much better before. But then again, its whatever you like, thats what makes the world go round. just my .02. Im blaming all the schumacher cars for making me feel this way:p

[John Langer]

davemilcarek.com, 3/16 Atco test and tune pictures. :)

[Chris Uratchko]

Looks good John! Looks like you might have needed them wheelie bars on the first set of pics!!

[Gary Kubisch]

Looks tame.........Must be the extra weight?

[John Langer]

You guys might get lucky. I am down here in Florida for work. There is talk about moving the outage up a few days. If they do, I will have to miss Bradenton. Unless a miracle happens, it doesn't look good.

[TA Dave]

Just call in Sick John. ;)

I hope you can make it.

[Chris Uratchko]

You need a Driver john?

[Butch Kemp]

You guys might get lucky. I am down here in Florida for work. There is talk about moving the outage up a few days. If they do, I will have to miss Bradenton. Unless a miracle happens, it doesn't look good.

yeah OK.

[Butch Kemp]

You guys might get lucky. I am down here in Florida for work. There is talk about moving the outage up a few days. If they do, I will have to miss Bradenton. Unless a miracle happens, it doesn't look good.

You are the miracle boy, remember.Oh thats someone else I was thinking about. You missing a race would be like Stanton really retiring!!

[HotStreet3134]

:-KFCD 1 Dead FireChickenYou need a Driver john?Lol! Just kidding Chris!

[HS 3131]

You guys might get lucky. I am down here in Florida for work. There is talk about moving the outage up a few days. If they do, I will have to miss Bradenton. Unless a miracle happens, it doesn't look good.

Were in Florida?

[Dr. Detroit]

Langer is probably in Miami rubbing elbows with Gloria Estefan and Don Johnson!!!

John better hurry on the wheel job Uratchko is getting quotes!!!
hahahaha..

:smt023

[Butch Kemp]

Were in Florida?

He is in Homestead (deep)

[Chris Uratchko]

:-KFCD 1 Dead FireChickenLol! Just kidding Chris!


Hey now you mean I can't shift that diesel at 9800? I can let a front end down as good as the next guy!!!!FordRules:

[HS 3131]

He is in Homestead (deep)

Homestead. Thats not even cosidered Florida

[BACARTY]

Johnny im gonna give you a ring sometime tomarrow night-

[John Langer]

Hey now you mean I can't shift that diesel at 9800? I can let a front end down as good as the next guy!!!!FordRules:

Sure you can, maybe once?

[BWise]

Dood, I'll be down Friday, Golf on Saturday? :cool:

[John Langer]

Dood, I'll be down Friday, Golf on Saturday? :cool:

Come on Brad, you know my schedule. I'll be in Los Angeles Thursday thru Sunday.

[HotStreet3134]

Hey now you mean I can't shift that diesel at 9800? I can let a front end down as good as the next guy!!!!FordRules:
You don't want John mad at you when you outrun his best ET in his own car!:-KFC

[John Langer]

Dinner last night in South Beach, tomorrow I head to LA to do it west coast style.

[Chris Uratchko]

I don't want to hear about it!! 2-4" of snow here coming.

[John Langer]

It got pretty breezy last night during dinner. I almost ha to put a light jacket on. I was around 14th and Ocean Drive eating outside overlooking the beach.

[Chris Uratchko]

:smt076

[DOUGHBOY RACING]

:rolleyes:Hey now you mean I can't shift that diesel at 9800? I can let a front end down as good as the next guy!!!!FordRules:
Looks like were gonna have to show this Ford rules icon in the post by Chris to his boss LOL :rolleyes:

[HotStreet3134]

I don't want to hear about it!! 2-4" of snow here coming.
We got about 4" last night and it's still coming off and on. Should've known better, first day of spring!:rolleyes:

[larry santucci]

It got pretty breezy last night during dinner. I almost ha to put a light jacket on. I was around 14th and Ocean Drive eating outside overlooking the beach.

That's ruff living. Was your lobster at least cooked right?

[John Langer]

It was a little chilly this morning in Cali. I had to wear a jacket when I was taking my Calif Contractors License test. The good news is that I finished early and will head to the beach to get a hotel there for the night.

[smav347]

OooOOOo the beach! Big deal. ha, ha, ha.

[HotStreet3134]

It was a little chilly this morning in Cali. I had to wear a jacket when I was taking my Calif Contractors License test. The good news is that I finished early and will head to the beach to get a hotel there for the night.RealCute:
Hope you don't get too much sand in your shorts! I'll be thinking about ya while I'm plowing the driveway.:-damnit

[watchout4me]

It was a little chilly this morning in Cali. I had to wear a jacket when I was taking my Calif Contractors License test. The good news is that I finished early and will head to the beach to get a hotel there for the night.

:confused::confused:
shouldnt you be putting your motor back in...:smt103

[Chris Uratchko]

I'm sure he's got people for that!!

[John Langer]

They took care of that days ago.

[HS 3131]

Shouldn't you guys be driving down here? Putting the motor back in? Whats up with that?

[John Langer]

I'm not leaving until around 6 or so tonight to miss the traffic. When my motor was built over the winter we had a LONG wait for rings for the new pistons so the motor was put back together with the old ring package/pistons. Well the new rings came in so the motor came out and the new pistons went in, no big deal. Rumor has it that there is power in those ring packages.

[HS 3131]

I'm not leaving until around 6 or so tonight to miss the traffic. When my motor was built over the winter we had a LONG wait for rings for the new pistons so the motor was put back together with the old ring package/pistons. Well the new rings came in so the motor came out and the new pistons went in, no big deal. Rumor has it that there is power in those ring packages.

There is power in that deal.............See you all there.

[Chris Uratchko]

I'm not leaving until around 6 or so tonight to miss the traffic. When my motor was built over the winter we had a LONG wait for rings for the new pistons so the motor was put back together with the old ring package/pistons. Well the new rings came in so the motor came out and the new pistons went in, no big deal. Rumor has it that there is power in those ring packages.


Nah....

[watchout4me]

When my motor was built over the winter we had a LONG wait for rings for the new pistons so the motor was put back together with the old ring package/pistons. Well the new rings came in so the motor came out and the new pistons went in, no big deal.


lmao... some people are more full of shit than a babies huggies...

but anyway... good luck this weekend kick some azz!!!

[matukas]

chris, just wanted to say congrates on all the power you made. Good job butch

[Butch Kemp]

chris, just wanted to say congrates on all the power you made. Good job butch

Thanks Steve, Chris is a talented engine builder.Now its up to me to make the car consistent.

[Jim Craig]

Butch -- don't forget to email those photos

jcraig@weldonpumps.com

thanks

[Ultimatelenny]

Congrats to you Butch. You have that hot rod flying. Chris is really making some good power. Best of luck this year!

Lenny@UltimateTC

[MattSwindle]

Ditto to you guys..!
Chris is an awesome engine builder...can't wait till he gets my monster done..!
I gotta a feelin' it's gonna turn the earth..!..LOL

[STEFF]

Nice work this past weekend Butch!!! Very Impressive!! If you're going to be out in the garage any evening, give me a ring. I'll stop by.

[John Langer]

Who says you can't get paid to work on your race car??? I would like to thank all of the fine electricity purchasing people in the great state of Florida that will be paying me and 2 of my guys to change the transmission and converter in my car as soon as the ground dries. :)

[Jeff Chandler]

Dear John,

GO FUCK YOURSELF

Sincerely, Jeff

[John Langer]

Thank you Florida Power and Light. Only took 4 guys 1.5 hours of overtime. :)

[BWise]

Nice :cool:

[HS 3131]

Thank you Florida Power and Light. Only took 4 guys 1.5 hours of overtime. :)

Its cuase of you my FPL bill is threw the roof....Be prepared for a long tech inspection.............

[Chris Uratchko]

:shock: