View Full Version : Immigration, does it need to stop?
Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Is this a problem in America? Have we overcrowded ourselves with people from foreign countries? I believe not! Why you may ask… Many years ago this is what made this country what it is today. It was not 200 men who came over with a new idea that made it. It was the idea put into effect that did. This was an idea to open the boarders, let people live in freedom and work for money. There was no cap on the amount you can make. The sky WAS the limit (WAS is a different topic that will be covered later). Now most look at immigrants as being the problem. Their constant complaining is they're taking our jobs. Are they really taking our jobs or are they filling the jobs that are open that no one wants? Is it wrong for them to come over? Is it OK for corporations to move these jobs to where they used to live? Is that not overall the same? I don’t believe it is. If an immigrant comes into this country and works, he\she will more than likely spend the money here. If the jobs are shipped to their country the money is spent there. Should immigration and exporting jobs both be stopped? Will this make this a richer country? A company who hires no new heads doesn’t have that good of a chance to make a bigger profit at the end of the fiscal year. So to make more money we need more jobs and more people to fill them...
Jimmy Biggs
03-31-2005, 10:21 PM
If we don't do what we are doing overseas now....we MUST CLOSE the Borders The only way to stop more 9/11's is to spread freedom thru out the world......weather or not you choose to believe the problem is jealousy. These Extreamist don't want freedom for their Women.....Even the everday Arab that I did business with busted my chops that our problems were stemmed from Women having to much to say.......we joked about it but I knew he really felt that way.....take that to an extream.....they want back to year 800.....Choice; Close the Borders or Spread Freedom......can't have it both ways
Sledgehammer
04-01-2005, 10:07 AM
I am of the moderate voice.......SPREAD FREEDOM and not just review the immigration process......FIX IT!!!
What is disturbing is once you get inside of our borders....you can drop off the radar, net, whatever you want to call it and disappear. We live in an open society and that is great but it is also our BIGGEST weakness.
fasterw18s
04-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Immigration is fine, as long as proper channels andd procedures are followed.
Illegal immigration is where our security and stability concerns come from.
novaz
04-03-2005, 12:24 PM
speaking as some one who has been in both situations legal now and illegal once
As I see it The main issue here is $$$$$$$$$$$$ if a company cant get workers at all they will outsource if they cant get them cheap enough they will outsource, if the only people ready to work are immigrants and they do the work Hell why not my Experience here is that most immigrants have a very strong work ethic, how many people grumble about all the immigrants legal or not and then rush into Walmart or whoever to buy a $29.00 DVD PLAYER it only got to be $29 because of the low labour costs and the huge clout Walmart or Nike et al has in what we call third world countries where they would rather earn a $1 an hour than starve .
America is the greatest country on earth for freedom and the reason terorists attack is because their own governments have an agenda to keep the people down and under control.
when I first came to The USA as a tourists in the early 90s it was like heaven on earth ,all you can eats,endless java refills, and all the cheap gas you could burn,and dont let me start on how many wet dreams i had about all the cheap muscle cars that were around :oops: , all the "free stuff" got me thinking how can they do it well how they did it and still do it is by cost strcture control the old saying ya cant keep ya cake AND eat it applies here.
if ya think ya got it bad how about gas @$8.00 a gallon annual tax and insurance like you would not think of and go faster stuff twice the price of Summits.
Sure not every thing in America is peachy but it could be a hell of a lot worse .I love America and most of what it stands for ie Muscle cars,Guns,nasty beer,great fast food ,and web sites like this GFZ and 2quicknovas.com
Oh yeah where am I from
England
Royz
Jimmy Biggs
04-03-2005, 12:42 PM
Welcome..........the US is the greatist place to be on the Planet.....I've seen most countries.....but yet we still bitch......the loudest ones are the ones that have never been anywhere........as to $1 an hour wages......that is how their economy is....in Mexico the average wage is about $7 a week.....they live alright on that(exist) I tip the crap out of them.....as for paying them the same wage as here for what....this is just a Liberal line yhe past out.....We are lazy here....nobody wants to work... :cry:
Sledgehammer
04-03-2005, 02:30 PM
The way I look at it....if this place is so bad why are people willing to risk being couped up in shipping containers and 100+degree tractor trailers to get here at the risk of dying.....
What kills me is these kids nowadays...that have no appreciation for the scrafice where others have given their lives for them to have the freedom to act like little sh&*s and disrespect the country and everything good about it!!!!
If they hate it so bad...stop breathin our air and there are Departure flights from most major airports - DAILY!!!!.
HERE'S YOUR SIGN!!!!!
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