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Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 01:14 AM
1. Despite Bush’s endless assurances that "Americans are safer," he’s done astonishingly little to protect the continental U.S. from terrorist attacks. His administration spends more in Iraq in four days than they’ve spent protecting our ports in four years, and Bush has blocked mandatory safety and security requirements at nuclear/chemical facilities (such requirements are unpopular with his corporate buds), leaving these facilities perilously vulnerable.

2. While there’s no established connection between Saddam Hussein and Sept. 11, there are established connections between Sept. 11 and Saudi-government officials, who not only provided funds to the hijackers (15 out of 19 of which were Saudis), but also supported front groups that funneled millions in aid to al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Say what you will about Michael Moore sometimes getting screwy with the facts, but his documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 does raise serious questions that the major media should have at least asked about the special treatment given numerous Saudis—including Bush’s longtime family friends the bin Ladens—to fly out of the U.S. in the days after Sept. 11.

3. Bush often reminds us we should be grateful to our soldiers, but in 2003, he proposed closing seven veterans hospitals, cutting combat bonus pay 33 percent, cutting assistance to soldiers’ families by 60 percent and cutting $1.3 billion in veterans’ health care. So far, Bush has not attended the funeral of a single soldier killed in Iraq.

4. Native Alaskan villages are being destroyed as sea ice melts and huge waves pound the coastline. El Niño caused China’s Yangtze River to overflow, killing more than 3,000 people and leaving 230 million homeless. Despite this and substantial evidence that global warming is real and man-made, for four years, Bush has misrepresented science in order to avoid passing measures that could annoy his campaign supporters in the fossil-fuel and auto industries. Bush has allowed companies to set their own targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and surprise, they set themselves very unchallenging goals.

5. Bush has his sights set on eliminating Social Security and is pushing for a system in which individuals’ contributions go into private accounts. This is a fine way to prepare for your dotage . . . as long as you’re not, y’know, one of those yucky poor people.

6. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have elevated conflict of interest to an art form. Before he joined the administration, Cheney was CEO of the giant energy company Halliburton, and he still receives deferred payments from the company. Halliburton’s a major contributor to the Bush administration, and Bush has paid them back in many sweet, sexy ways. In January, he announced we’re going to Mars, and an industry official told the Washington Post, "Halliburton would benefit considerably." Bush allowed hydraulic fracturing--an oil-and-gas-exploration technique pioneered and primarily used by Halliburton--even though studies showed the technique could leave toxic chemicals in drinking water. And then there’s Iraq. The Energy Task Force Cheney headed to develop a long-range plan to meet U.S. energy requirements naturally ignored ideas for reducing oil consumption and in March 2001 submitted a report containing a map of Iraqi oilfields, refineries, pipelines and terminals, along with two charts outlining Iraqi oil and gas projects. In 2003, without competitive bidding, the Pentagon hired Halliburton to rebuild Iraq and restore the Iraqi oil industry. After the company overcharged the government $61 million, the White House removed a provision from the $87 billion Iraq spending bill that would’ve held Halliburton accountable.

7. In Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11, you can see for yourself what a useless lump Bush was on the morning of Sept. 11 as he sat in that classroom, staring into space while kids read My Pet Goat. This time, Moore’s actually hired some decent factcheckers, and for a line-by-line, factual backup of many of the film’s most damning claims against Bush, citing a variety of sources, visit www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/f911notes/.

8. Even now, Bush laughably points to Afghanistan as one of the successes of his administration. Although military and intelligence officials believe we had bin Laden surrounded in the caves of Tora Bora, Bush pulled out our troops, sent them to Iraq and left the bin Laden hunt to Afghan warlords. Bin Laden’s still at large, and since August 2003, more than 1,000 people have been killed in violence linked to a resurgent Taliban.

9. Fossil fuels will be gone within your lifetime, and while Bush’s administration has been touting hydrogen as a potential replacement for oil, it takes more energy to create hydrogen than we’ll ever get from the stuff. Unless we get serious about alternative fuels--and pronto--expect ever-skyrocketing oil costs, bloody wars over resources and economic collapse.

10. Bush’s campaign has cleverly turned many of Democratic nominee John Kerry’s seemingly irrefutable virtues against him. Problem: Bush supported the Vietnam War but stayed home and partied, while Kerry, who was against the war, went off to fight courageously, won medals and came home to tell America of the horrors he’d witnessed. Solution: Swift Boat with a dash of ribbon-gate. Problem: Bush is an inarticulate ignoramus, while Kerry is well-spoken and sophisticated. Solution: portray Kerry as a French-talking, out-of-touch egghead (and make lots of jokes about him being rich, even if your guy comes from big money, too). Problem: Bush is small and graceless, while Kerry is imposing and athletic. Solution: use the footage of Kerry snowboarding and windsurfing to make ads about him "changing direction," impugn his masculinity wherever possible, and joke about his tan. Problem: Bush is mindlessly set on a suicidal, unpopular course in Iraq, while Kerry’s position evolved, like most Americans, from pro to a firm con. Solution: flip-flopper! Hey, this stuff writes itself. Well, actually, horrid little men write it in darkened rooms, and Bush sneakily benefits while publicly deploring the sorry state of modern campaigning.

11. Last March, members of Congress hosted a peculiar ritual for South Korean cult leader/ex-con/multibillionaire Sun Myung Moon, who was given a jeweled crown and pronounced the "King of Peace." Moon has declared that gays are "dung-eating dogs," American women are "prostitutes" and Jews brought the Holocaust upon themselves by betraying Jesus. He did time in the 1980s for tax fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice, and there are extensive reports he’s allowed followers to be tortured. Nevertheless, he’s enjoyed a long relationship with the Bushes, and a Bush Sr. spokesman told the Washington Post, "[Moon’s] group is about strengthening the family and that’s what President and Mrs. Bush are deeply focused on." Various Moon VIPs have scored peachy government gigs, and under W’s Faith Based Initiative, the federal government has given Moon grants supporting school programs focused on Moon’s anti-sex teachings. Makes you long for Jerry Falwell.

12. In the 2000 debates, Bush promised he’d create millions of new jobs through his tax cuts. He promised he’d support allowing Americans to buy less expensive prescription drugs from Canada. He promised to end Washington’s partisan squabbling. He promised that if he sent American troops into combat, "the force must be strong enough so that the mission can be accomplished. And the exit strategy needs to be well-defined." If you want to predict the next four years, just assume Bush will do the exact opposite of what he promises in the 2004 debates.

13. On Aug. 24, a high-level, independent Pentagon panel found Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the Joint Chiefs of Staff failed to effectively oversee detention policies at U.S. prisons in Iraq, Afghanistan and Cuba, leading to the infamous rape and torture of men, women and children at Abu Ghraib. This torture was not simply a few hillbillies gone out of control; it was the direct result of this administration willfully flouting the Geneva Convention. Rumsfeld’s resignation is expected shortly after hell freezes over.

14. Bush’s Medicare Modernization Act is actually a devious way to gradually kill off Medicare altogether, splitting seniors into warring camps by adding a new, private Preferred Provider Organization option. More affluent seniors will pounce on this option, poorer seniors will stay with traditional Medicare, and the private competition will drive premiums ever higher as benefits for basic Medicare become ever worse. And as Medicare is dying, the healthier, wealthier seniors will have little incentive to fight for it. As taxpayers, we’re going to pay a hell of a lot for Medicare in our lives, but by the time we’re old enough for it, it won’t be there anymore.

15. The Patriot Act does little to defend you from terrorists but greatly increases the government’s power to get all up in your mess. Phone and Internet records can now be searched without warrants; police can see what books you’ve checked out of the library, but libraries are prohibited from informing you about the inquiry; your religious and political activities can be scrutinized even if the government doesn’t suspect criminal activity; you may be jailed without being charged, denied a lawyer or the chance to confront witnesses against you, and held indefinitely without a trial. Bush’s boys apparently still don’t feel they’ve dismantled civil liberties enough: they’re reportedly at work on the Patriot Act II.

16. On Sept. 24, The New York Times reported the Republican National Committee sent mass mailings to West Virginia and Arkansas warning that "liberals" seek to ban the Bible. The mailings featured images of the Bible labeled "banned" and a gay-marriage proposal labeled "allowed." RNC spokescreature Christine Iverson was unapologetic: "When the Massachusetts Supreme Court sanctioned same-sex marriage and people in other states realized they could be compelled to recognize those laws, same-sex marriage became an issue. . . . These same activist judges also want to remove the words ‘under God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance."

17. You know those tax cuts you’ve been getting during W’s term, the ones that didn’t quite take the sting out of getting laid off? On Sept. 23, Congress approved a $145.9 billion package to extend three cuts, despite an expected record $422 billion deficit this year. Democrats and moderate Republicans argued to extend the cuts one year and pay for them by closing corporate tax loopholes, but Bush held out for a plan extending the cuts five years while keeping his beloved corporate cats as fat as ever. Bush’s fiscal policy is not unlike his energy policy: we’ll relentlessly draw from a finite, diminishing pool, and by the time it runs dry, we’ll be dead and somebody else can clean up the mess.

18. During a commercial break on a 2000 Late Night With David Letterman appearance, the cameras caught Bush cleaning his glasses using the shirttails of Maria Pope, one of the show’s producers. Our president used a stranger as his Kleenex. (See the clip at www.bushflash.com/unb.html.)

19. With nuclear tensions escalating with Iran and North Korea, Bush is touting a $100 billion missile-defense program that wouldn’t stop a tetchy mosquito. On Oct. 3, the Associated Press quoted Loren Thompson, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute think tank in Washington: "In terms of operational realities, it is a very rudimentary system that requires much further testing and could not stop a substantial attack against the nation."

20. Bush’s administration is steadily chipping away at reproductive rights. Bush has appointed a host of anti-choice federal judges. He slashed funds to the United Nations Population Fund, a program supporting groups that educate the women of poor nations about their reproductive options. He signed a bill banning a late-term abortion procedure, a bill two federal judges found unconstitutional. Although laws already cover crimes against pregnant women, Bush signed the redundant Unborn Victims of Violence Act as a shout-out to pro-lifers. He’s suggested doubling the federal funds for abstinence-only sex-ed programs, even though graduates of such programs are statistically more likely to engage in unprotected sex. Sure, the majority of America is pro-choice, but since when has Bush let the will of the people affect his decisions?

21. "Sanctity of Marriage": pure crap.

22. Remember the recent headlines when Yusuf Islam, formerly known as Cat Stevens, was deported after his name was spotted on a U.S. security "watch list"? Turns out the whole thing was due to a spelling error. Nice to know our government is devoting the proper resources to persecuting singer/songwriters of the 1970s.

23. Although Bush hardly spent his youth (or middle age) in a state of monk-like sobriety, his administration will bust you hard if you party like he did. His Justice Department has invoked the War on Terror to crack down on minor drug users, running hysterical ads equating marijuana use with supporting terrorism. Last year, Cheech and Chong’s Tommy Chong did nine months of hard time for selling glassware that could be used to smoke pot. Chong wasn’t dealing drugs; he was a glassware pusher. The day Chong was arrested, Ashcroft declared in a press conference, "The illegal-drug-paraphernalia industry has invaded the homes of families across the country without their knowledge." Jesus . . . Tommy Chong? Cat Stevens? Is Bush working his way through Nixon’s old enemies list? Watch out, Hanoi Jane!

24. Bush’s administration doesn’t just invoke the War on Terror to justify busting folksingers and pothead comedians. They invoke it to bust unions, too. On Jan. 7, 2002, Bush issued an executive order to de-unionize 500 government positions (mostly support staffers like secretaries, paralegals and clerks) because the presence of unionized workers would not be "consistent with national security requirements and considerations."

25. During his 2000 campaign, Bush pledged that if elected, he’d support the continuation of the assault weapons ban. Bush lied, of course, and AK-47s will soon make a legal return to the streets.

26. Pseudonymous bloggers Julius Civitatus and Biltud compiled a chart showing the Bush administration announces new terror alerts (alerts often discredited later) whenever the headlines look bad for W and that Bush’s approval ratings typically rise as a result. Following some rough weeks for Bush this summer, on Aug. 2, the Department of Homeland Security raised the terror alert at several large financial institutions in New York City and Washington . . . based on info later revealed to be three or four years old. That same day, Bush’s daughters visited New York’s Citicorp Building, one of the buildings supposedly in grave danger. See the chart at juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_juliusblog_archive.html.

27. At this writing, the headlines are full of the "Rathergate" fiasco, so much so that nobody mentions that while the memo itself was a rather obvious forgery, all the evidence suggests Bush did skate on his National Guard service. A chastened CBS has shelved a long-planned 60 Minutes piece investigating how the Bush administration justified the Iraq invasion by using forged documents claiming Iraq attempted to purchase uranium from Niger. CBS now says it would be "inappropriate" to run it this close to the election. Some might say the Rather memo came along at the perfect moment for the Bushies.

28. "In the CIA’s core, U.S.-based bin Laden operations unit today there are fewer Directorate of Operations officers with substantive expertise on al-Qaeda than there were on Sept. 11, 2001. There has been no systematic effort to groom al-Qaeda expertise among . . . officers since Sept. 11. Today, the unit is greatly understaffed, [and] the excellent management team now running operations against al-Qaeda has made repeated, detailed and on-paper pleas for more officers to work against al-Qaeda . . . but have been ignored." (Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA’s Osama bin Laden unit)

29. While Bush’s camp has tried to convince America the terrorists want Kerry to win, Bush is actually a superb recruiting tool for al-Qaeda: he is despised by the rest of the world, and he’s overseeing a disastrous occupation of Iraq that brings more people to the terrorist cause every day.

30. After Sept. 11, there was an outpouring of goodwill toward the U.S. from the nations of the world, something Bush has squandered with his macho posturing.

31. This administration treats America’s workers with shocking contempt. On Oct. 2, Congress voted to oppose Bush’s efforts to rewrite overtime pay rules so an estimated 6 million workers would lose overtime benefits. In a May visit to an Arkansas Wal-Mart, Cheney said, "The story of Wal-Mart exemplifies some of the very best qualities in our country." Do America’s best qualities include paying workers poverty-level wages, providing such crappy health benefits many employees rely on public assistance, and locking employees inside stores overnight? Referring to workers who’ve dared to take Wal-Mart to court over such labor practices, Cheney snarled, "America’s entrepreneurs should be able to hire productive workers, instead of hiring lawyers."

32. Millions of jobs have been lost in the past four years, yours perhaps among them. But don’t worry; as Cheney has helpfully pointed out, you can get by just fine selling your possessions on eBay!

33. On Jan. 8, 2002, Bush signed the No Child Left Behind (NCLB) act with much fanfare. The program was to have provided American schools with critical resources while holding them to strict new standards. And then Bush mercilessly cut the program’s funding, leaving millions of children behind. For the 2004-2005 school year, NCLB will be underfunded by $9.4 billion, affecting nearly every district in the U.S. Bush once famously asked, "Is our children learning?" No, Mr. Bush, thanks to you, they unfortunately is not.

34. No Child Left Behind also included a provision whereby public school districts—to qualify for the federal funds--have to provide personal information on high school students to military recruiters.

35. At a White House press conference on Sept. 23, Bush giggled as he said, "I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track [polling] in Iraq was better than here in America. It’s pretty darn strong. I mean, the people [of Iraq] see a better future." Well, no wonder! Bush is hell-bent on bringing decent schools, universal health care and free elections to Iraq . . . and apparently just as hell-bent on preventing us from getting that stuff here.

36. Flashback to May 2003: Bush in a flight suit on the deck of an aircraft carrier bearing a "Mission Accomplished" sign.

37. The National Guard exists to protect the continental U.S. from invasion, domestic terrorists, etc. Bush has sent almost the entire National Guard overseas. What happens if an armed militia mounts a major attack on, say, New York City?

38. On Sept. 24, the Washington Post quoted Bush on Kerry’s promise he’d increase taxes only on Americans earning more than $200,000 per year: "[Kerry] says he’s going to tax the rich. Rich hire lawyers and accountants for a reason--to stick you with the bill. We’re not going to let him tax you because we’re going to win in November." Just like that, Bush--who’s worked tirelessly on behalf of the grossly affluent--takes Kerry’s promise to tax only the wealthy and twists it around. Anyone else smell Karl Rove in the room?

39. While Bush maintains he has no plans to revive the draft, the military is facing a critical personnel crisis. There’s no end in sight to the conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, our allies are pulling out their troops, thousands of U.S. soldiers who were due for discharge instead had their service extended (in violation of the contracts they originally signed), hundreds have gone AWOL, and more than 1,000 have been killed with more causalities on a daily basis. Bush will not pull us out, and he can’t afford to lose. If you want to lose some sleep tonight, visit www.blatanttruth.org/draft.php and read their biased but not easily dismissed arguments for why a draft is looking increasingly likely.

40. The Plame Affair should have been a scandal so big it had a "gate" at the end, but sadly it petered out at Affair. In the summer of 2003, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson wrote a New York Times opinion piece in which he revealed that in 2002 he traveled to Niger on a CIA assignment to investigate claims Saddam Hussein was trying to buy uranium. Wilson said he’d reported back the allegations were probably bogus, yet Bush still mentioned the uranium plot in that year’s State of the Union address. One week after Wilson’s Times piece, conservative columnist Robert Novak wrote an article defending the White House, in which he argued Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame, "an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction," arranged Wilson’s Niger trip. Plame had been a covert operative before this, and revealing covert operatives is crazy illegal. The Washington Post later reported that over that summer, two administration aides had contacted six separate journalists to reveal Plame’s identity. Wilson contends the White House leak was intended as a grim warning to the intelligence community, cautioning them against publicly questioning the administration.

41. "A reliable source who has just returned after assessing the facts on the ground for U.S. intelligence services told me that in Iraq, U.S. commanders have plans for this week and the next, but that there is ‘no overarching strategy.’"--Sidney Blumenthal, writing in The Guardian of London in September.

42. According to the Supreme Court, the FCC is required to protect the American public’s right to a "wide diversity of viewpoints from a multiplicity of sources." But a diversity of viewpoints is the last thing Bush’s boys want. In the past four years, the FCC has been handing control of the entire media to a few conservative conglomerates, thereby enriching Bush’s corporate pals and squashing critical voices in one masterstroke. Last year, FCC Chairman Michael Powell—son of Colin--approved relaxed media-ownership rules that would let a single company (like, say, Fox) own a daily newspaper, three TV stations, eight radio stations and a cable system in the same city. This June, a U.S. appeals court blocked implementation of the rules, ordering the FCC to review them further, but it’s only a temporary reprieve. In the meantime, the FCC’s trying to stamp out what remains of free speech, making a big show of going after smut (Janet Jackson’s boobie) and dissent (Howard Stern). For years, Stern supported Bush, but this year, Stern came out strongly against the administration. The FCC promptly hit Stern with an unprecedented, $500,000 indecency fine . . . for material that aired a year before. In this repressive climate, broadcasters aren’t taking risks. The Bush-friendly Clear Channel dropped Stern’s syndicated show from its stations, Disney dumped Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11, CBS canned The Reagans, etc., etc.

43. "I don’t think that you can kill the insurgency [in Iraq]," W. Andrew Terrill, professor at the Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute, told Salon.com on Sept. 16. "We see larger and more coordinated military attacks. . . . The insurgency has shown an ability to regenerate itself because there are people willing to fill the ranks of those who are killed."

44. Most arguments against stem-cell research are based on confusion between embryos and fetuses. Stem cells aren’t harvested from aborted fetuses; they’re harvested from embryos, which are babies the same way acorns are trees. Bush certainly knows the difference, but he doesn’t want to tell America the truth and risk alienating pro-lifers. And so he allows millions of people to die or suffer horribly from diseases (like Alzheimer’s) scientists believe could be cured via stem cells.

45. Since Sept. 11, the Justice Department has detained more than 5,000 foreign nationals in anti-terrorism sweeps. In all this time, the Justice Department obtained exactly one jury conviction, and on Sept. 2, 2004, a Detroit federal judge threw it out. While W’s goon squads have been expending massive resources to round up and hold thousands of innocent people on flimsy evidence, how many real terrorists have they let slip by?

46. Campaigning in 2000, Bush warned that Al Gore would "throw the budget out of balance." In the past four years, Bush and a GOP Congress blew a 10-year budget surplus once estimated at $5.6 trillion, leaving us with an estimated $5 trillion deficit. According to the Office of Management and Budget, this year’s deficit will run about $445 billion.

47. Before Bush was inaugurated in January 2001, Bill Clinton told him that bin Laden, al-Qaeda and the Taliban would most occupy the new president’s time. That message was reiterated in a Jan. 25, 2001, memo from the White House’s counterterrorism expert, Richard Clarke, who asked on several occasions for early Principals Committee meetings. Clarke, who was frustrated that no early meeting was scheduled, wanted principals to accept that al-Qaeda was a "first-order threat" and not a routine problem being exaggerated by "chicken little" alarmists. In July 2001, an FBI agent in Arizona sent a memo to headquarters warning of the "possibility of a coordinated effort by Usama [sic] bin Laden to send students to the United States to attend civil aviation schools." That memo and the Clarke memo were ignored for months. According to the 9/11 Commission’s official website (www.9-11commission.gov/staff_statements/staff_statement_8.pdf), no Principals Committee meetings on al-Qaeda were held until Sept. 4, 2001.

48. By his own admission, Bush is not a reader. Among the things he apparently doesn’t read are his Presidential Daily Briefs. The infamous brief for Aug. 6, 2001, headlined "Bin Ladin [sic] Determined to Strike Inside U.S." stated, "Al-Qa’ida [sic] members--including some who are U.S. citizens--have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks. . . . FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York." The same day that brief arrived, the Associated Press reported that Bush, vacationing on his ranch, enjoyed a fishing trip and a leisurely morning jog.

49. Showing just how concerned W’s administration was about terrorism leading up to Sept. 11, on Sept. 10, 2001, brand-new Attorney General John Ashcroft cut the FBI’s request for new counterterrorism money by 12 percent . . . a decision he presumably regretted somewhat the following morning.

50. On March 23, 2004, Bush actually had the plums to declare, "Had my administration had any information that terrorists were going to attack New York City on Sept. 11, we would have acted."

51. Bush’s health plan is so awful it makes Kerry’s awful health plan look . . . well . . . less awful. No worries: just don’t get sick. Ever.

52. On Aug. 10, 2001, the Washington Post’s Charles Krauthammer noted that "if you add up all his weekends at Camp David, layovers at Kennebunkport and assorted to-ing and fro-ing, W. will have spent 42 percent of his presidency at vacation spots or en route." After Sept. 11 Bush’s vacation time decreased . . . by a whopping 2 percent. In an April 11, 2004, story headlined "Bush Retreats to a Favorite Getaway: Crawford Ranch," the Houston Chronicle noted that with 33 trips to Crawford; 78 trips to Camp David; and five to his family’s compound at Kennebunkport, Maine, Bush spent all or part of 500 days--or about 40 percent of his presidency--at one of his three retreats.

53. We don’t have space to detail the whole 2000 election debacle, so we’re assuming you know about the sleazy doings of Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris in Florida and how thousands of Florida’s African-Americans were falsely (and deliberately) classed as felons and thus barred from voting. If not, go get crazy with Google. Anyhow, after Bush finally declared himself the winner, he pledged to modernize America’s voting systems by 2004. Well, surprise, it’s still a mess . . . something Republicans will take advantage of again this election. They’ve been pushing "e-voting," using machines leaving nothing behind for a recount, machines made by Bush’s buddies. In the highly contested state of Ohio, Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell has been trying to bar thousands of newly registered Democratic voters based on a paper-stock technicality. There are even accusations that Jeb Bush is resorting to horrifying new methods to scare blacks away from the polls: armed agents recently visited Florida’s elderly black people in their homes, told them they were part of a criminal investigation, asked confusing questions about their voting records and waved guns around. (The facts are at paleblue.us/archives/000912.html.) Jeb doesn’t deny armed agents visited the homes of old black people, but he denies the agents deliberately intimidated anybody. Every vote counts—except the ones never counted.

54. That Swift Boat horse shit. If you were dumb enough to buy any of it, you deserve whatever freakin’ president you get. Bush has made half-hearted denials that he had advanced knowledge about the ads, but on a Sept. 28, 2004, appearance on Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, he was non-committal about whether Karl Rove knew about them, saying, "I don’t think so." When asked if his campaign people would give him a "heads up" if they’d coordinated the ads, Bush replied, "Not to my knowledge."

55. "[Iraq] is far graver than Vietnam," retired General William Odom, former head of the National Security Agency, told Salon.com on Sept. 16. "There wasn’t as much at stake strategically, though in both cases we mindlessly went ahead with a war that was not constructive for U.S. aims. But now we’re in a region far more volatile and we’re in much worse shape with our allies." Odom also said he’s never observed so much tension between a presidential administration and senior military officials, not even during Vietnam: "There’s a significant [military] majority believing this is a disaster. The two parties whose interests have been advanced have been the Iranians and al-Qaeda."

56. In a Nov. 28, 2002, Toronto Star interview, New York University professor of culture and communications Mark Crispin Miller explained there could be something sinister behind Bush’s notorious verbal gaffes. "I think that Bush is a sociopathic personality," Miller said. "I think he’s incapable of empathy. . . . He has no trouble speaking off the cuff when he’s speaking punitively, when he’s talking about violence, when he’s talking about revenge. When he struts and thumps his chest, his syntax and grammar are fine; it’s only when he leaps into the wild blue yonder of compassion, or idealism, or altruism that he makes these hilarious mistakes." Miller cited an example from early in Bush’s presidential tenure: "I know how hard it is to put food on your family." Miller: "That wasn’t because he’s so stupid that he doesn’t know how to say, ‘Put food on your family’s table’—it’s because he doesn’t care about people who can’t put food on the table. When he tries to talk about what this country stands for or about democracy, he can’t do it."

57. In a Sept. 14, 2004, Boston Globe article, Michigan physician Joseph Price told columnist Alex Beam that Bush’s mangled syntax could well be the result of "presenile dementia." Price noticed telltale signs of the disorder when his kids gave him a daily tear-off calendar of "Bushisms" for Christmas. "They are horrible," Price told the Globe, "but they are also diagnostic." Price’s suspicions were also piqued by a long article about Bush in The Atlantic that reported Bush had been articulate through his 40s, which would rule out diseases like dyslexia that typically develop in childhood. In a letter published this month in The Atlantic, Price describes presenile dementia as "a fairly typical Alzheimer’s situation that develops significantly earlier in life. . . . President Bush’s ‘mangled’ words are a demonstration of what physicians call ‘confabulation’ and are almost specific to the diagnosis of a true dementia."

58. The idea that the leader of the free world is either a sociopath or suffers from a degenerative brain disease is too terrifying to contemplate. Best-case scenario: he’s just a plain old dumbass. Keep your fingers crossed, kids.

59. Because this schmuck makes Nixon look good.

666 the legend
03-29-2005, 01:18 AM
....Who has the ...FUCKIN.....strength to READ all of that .......SHIT.........DAYUM....!!!!

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 01:19 AM
#42 I have court records that differ from what you say......Stern had pending shit before Bush was in office......I listen to Stern (more when I was younger) and he should be on satillite radio.......pay per word :roll:

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 01:21 AM
One thing about Bush.....We're talkin Policy here not BJ's from Chunky Chicks :shock:

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 01:27 AM
Please post something Bush has done for us?

This country is more prown to attack now than it was pre 9/11.
He has made more enemies than we have friends.
He has fucked up relationships with allies that took us decades to form
He has let the Saudi's get away with murder (over 2500 to be exact)
He has spent every dime of out money plus 10 tillion too boot...

What has this guy done for us!!! US!!!

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 01:29 AM
One thing about Bush.....We're talkin Policy here not BJ's from Chunky Chicks :shock:

Well he didn't spend 10 tillion getting it.. We are getting fucked and we are paying for it!

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 01:36 AM
Please post something Bush has done for us?

This country is more prown to attack now than it was pre 9/11.
He has made more enemies than we have friends.
He has fucked up relationships with allies that took us decades to form
He has let the Saudi's get away with murder (over 2500 to be exact)
He has spent every dime of out money plus 10 tillion too boot...

What has this guy done for us!!! US!!!

Have we had one??
They weren't are friends (friends don't sell oil for food and block UN Votes)
We are stronger now with the world...look at Libia
I'll explain Saudi Passports to you some day
The Clinton Surpluss was never in the Bank....it was a 10 year projection....Dan Rather failed to tell you that

He lowered my taxes

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 01:44 AM
Jimmy fill me in with the "inside scoop" of Saudi passports.. I'm dying to hear this one. It's all a conspiracy isn't it? Saddam and Bin Laden have been long time enemies. Although Saddam was evil he was not stupid. Why would Saddam fuck with the US when the US was its biggest money maker? Kinda like you pissing on the big guys foot. Kuwait was a sorry excuse to invade and so is this.. Funny the fat pigs are getting fat on this one..

Why are gas prices so high? Saddam is captured. Iraq is "free" and the US has total control of the oil.. So why the high prices? Oh wait.. Bush did say oil would pay for this war. What he did say is we would be the ones paying for it...

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:12 AM
Wow that was tough!! Tell the guy to prove his points and he runs off.. Oh well Im used to people not having anything to fight with... :roll:

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 08:12 AM
Saudi Passports........We are the only Nation in the World that gives citizenship upon birth.....So its like this.....These asswipes did NOT live their lives in Saudi Arabia,,,,waitin to come here.....Their family linage came from Saudi so the only Passport/Citizenship they could have is from Saudi......Bin Laudin is a "real Saudi" do we blame Saudi for him?? This is one of those things the "News" didn;t explain

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 08:23 AM
Jimmy fill me in with the "inside scoop" of Saudi passports.. I'm dying to hear this one. It's all a conspiracy isn't it? Saddam and Bin Laden have been long time enemies. Although Saddam was evil he was not stupid. Why would Saddam fuck with the US when the US was its biggest money maker? Kinda like you pissing on the big guys foot. Kuwait was a sorry excuse to invade and so is this.. Funny the fat pigs are getting fat on this one..

Why are gas prices so high? Saddam is captured. Iraq is "free" and the US has total control of the oil.. So why the high prices? Oh wait.. Bush did say oil would pay for this war. What he did say is we would be the ones paying for it...

Saddam had a promiss from France and Germany (add Russia too) That we would not attack them....'cause the US would never get the "Vote" from the UN Security consell....Follow the money.....look now at the "OIL for Food" program.....it is without a doubt the biggest scandal in the history of this planet....The money Trails are there(Saddam kept great records) It may take years..they are bucking the investigation (Kofi going down this week) BUT THE REASON FOR THE WAR IS GREED.....FROM FRANCE, GERMANY, and Russia......Had they said Saddam the US is gonna fuck you up....he would have backed down......He was givin promisses from those countries leaders.....So who's fault for our Troops Dying.....FRANCE, GERMANY, RUSSIA

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 08:29 AM
High Oil Prices.....Monty again you won't learn this from Peter Jennings....We don't control the oil from Iraq....the people do.....Now go look up how oil is sold on the World market.....You will see that George (or his Rich Friends) don't have a thing to do with it :lol: ....now go look it up......The other reason is....Refinery's.....We haven't built a new one in 30 years.....Them freakin Tree Huggers won't allow it....blame them.....I personally don't care how much Gas is.......let all you LIBs ride bikes and keep off my roads :P

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Since when the FUCK is one guy responsible for all that ails our current society?! This is such fuckin' bullshit!!!!!!!!!! Damn, I like ya Monty, but you got your head up your ass if you think one guy is to blame for all you think is wrong with this nation. What's going on now was set in motion years ago from a different administration and more importantly, a different congress. Just my not so fuckin' humble opinion.........

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 10:08 AM
Hey Rod....I just listed you on my Favorites :P

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 10:16 AM
You 'da man Jimmy! I only have brief moments of brilliance.....enjoy them when they are present

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:09 PM
Who said I only blame one guy? I only blame the present guy... 4 years of war.. 8 years of peace and now 8 years of war.. It's either coincidence or the Bush name is part to blame.

Remember we all base our opinions off facts and/or opinions of others. The only ignorant statement made will be one with no research and/or knowledge in this subject.

I'm the kind of guy who wants reasons for actions. Bush stated Bin Laden was to blame for all of this. Now please explain to me how the news channels knew who was behind this before our CIA figured it out? How is it we couldn't find Saddam but Jesse Jackson can have an interview with him way back in the day? What happened to prime suspect number 2 anyway? If anyone hates Saddam more than anyone its going to be me. My family was in direct path of this guy!! Where is Bin Laden? Is he still our mission?

We were blind sided by this guy and I am yet to hear how he told the truth about any of this mess. Remember we hired Saddam to take out Iran. We hired Bin Laden to take out (drawing a blank here on the war we had him fight in the 80's). Maybe we need to worry about what is happening to America now since this on going war is doing nothing in the overall picture of things. You will never stop evil. Gandhi tried it and it didn't work. Buda tried it and it didn't work. The Pope tried it and it doesn't work. How do we expect world peace when we can't even get along with our next door neighbors?

Another question? What ever happened to the CIA when they got caught trafficking drug into this country? Oh yeah OJ became the big headline in the papers. One man in L.A. went down and that's all she wrote.

These are my opinions and question that I have.. Rod I still love ya.. :-D

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 02:20 PM
I luv ya too, Monty.......but before we start suckin' each others dicks...(don't mean that literaly, or do I have to say that) this fucked up situation is WAY too complex to blame it on one guy. I'm from Chicago.....one of originating cities of "machine" government. By that I mean there is corruption and mutual oral sex throughout the powers that be and it's not gonna stop any time soon. I try to be positive but let's face it, we're on the decline of our society as we know it. Look at how "gay" issues have become so important.......can you say "fall of the Roman empire".....

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Rod you can move to my favorite list now.. Damn you are a smart guy!!! It's funny that I had to take American History in school to learn how not to make mistakes twice. I believe the start of ever collapsed world power started by reaching its arms out to control more land...

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 02:32 PM
Monty we had 8 years of signed peace deals with Countries that bullshited the bullshitter.....Thats why we are in this situation...WAKE UP

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:38 PM
So you mean to tell me that they waited for Bush to plan the attack? it took them 6 months to plot this attack.. Not 6 years.. Why was it in Bush's 6 months they did this if Clinton was such a pushover?

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 02:46 PM
Thats it I'm comin to Detroit to kick your Liberal Ass...Pick me up at the Airport :evil:

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 02:48 PM
Again Monty..........WAKE UP.......Bush didn't plan shit!!!!!

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:48 PM
See people with no arguments left always resort to violence to make them feel right.. Its the Republican way... :-D

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 02:49 PM
I'll bet it won't be near as entertaining as the "cat" fight our fearless web host posted

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:51 PM
Bush didn't plan shit!!!!!

You are 100% correct Jimmy. Just look at the cluster fuck he has caused from our economy to foreign relations

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 02:53 PM
I'll bet it won't be near as entertaining as the "cat" fight our fearless web host posted

Them boys aint got nothing.. They are probably all in a meeting somewhere down in Philly wondering what to say to back out at the last second...

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 02:58 PM
I believe you've actually found a better scapegoat than a certain BBNOVA for all that bothers ya there.........you ain't right, but I'm really glad you gave me a place to vent

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 03:05 PM
Umm Rod, Im talking about the Philly racers that are so "badass" that is being posted about on this site. I have no problems with BBNova and any problems I may have had is water under the bridge...

Rod Lenz
03-29-2005, 03:19 PM
I was trying to be funny, refer to the P/M I sent.....I can be lame at times

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 06:28 PM
Sorry Rod, I lost the PM sorting thru all my hate mail... :-D

Jim Monson
03-29-2005, 06:36 PM
BBNOVA ? I thought he went by the name %50 now? Maybe it's %40? I forget? :?

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 07:21 PM
Bush didn't plan shit!!!!!

You are 100% correct Jimmy. Just look at the cluster fuck he has caused from our economy to foreign relations

Monty...you drank the coolaid....The Economy was on the down turn in Sept 00 ......Then 9/11 We could have gone into a DEPRESSION from that attack it didn't happen....why....TAX incentives....they work every time


If you want the Truth Watch FOX News They Report....You decide.....lets take a look at FOX News.....8 years on the air.....doing better ratings then CNN, MSNBC, CNBC.....Combined.....in '04 they made history by getting better ratings then the Networks

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 08:12 PM
Well after this last post its pretty obvious you do not have a clue on whats going on. The major networks look for rating.. They can care less about telling the full story.

Man saves a child from car firey car wreck... << take it off TV it doesn't sell
Man kills a child by slamming his car into the wall << air it!!

Did you ever notice Jerry Springers show was a hot hit when all the trash and fighting was on there? Did you notice all the family talk shows were going under because of it? Oprah put a stop to Jerry's stuff and the show pretty much died down. See people are not always intrested in the facts. They want entertainment.. Killing, blood, guts.. etc etc.. It is the reason it take people an extra 45 minutes to get home sometimes. People do not wanna see someone changing a tire on the side of the road.. They wanna see his head and brain splatered across the road... It gives them something to talk about when they get to work or home :roll: Now everyone will deny this fact. But it is still a fact...

Sledgehammer
03-29-2005, 09:30 PM
39. While Bush maintains he has no plans to revive the draft, the military is facing a critical personnel crisis. There’s no end in sight to the conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, our allies are pulling out their troops, thousands of U.S. soldiers who were due for discharge instead had their service extended (in violation of the contracts they originally signed), hundreds have gone AWOL, and more than 1,000 have been killed with more causalities on a daily basis. Bush will not pull us out, and he can’t afford to lose. If you want to lose some sleep tonight, visit www.blatanttruth.org/draft.php and read their biased but not easily dismissed arguments for why a draft is looking increasingly likely.


In January, Rangel and Hollings introduced H.R. 163 in the House and S. 89 in the Senate, respectively. The legislation would re-institute a draft to compulsory military or alternative national service for men and women between the ages of 18 and 26 who are U.S. citizens or residents.

Sledgehammer
03-29-2005, 09:38 PM
37. The National Guard exists to protect the continental U.S. from invasion, domestic terrorists, etc. Bush has sent almost the entire National Guard overseas. What happens if an armed militia mounts a major attack on, say, New York City?



Excerpt from the Army National Guard Website:

In addition, the President of the United States can activate the National Guard for participation in federal missions. Examples of federal activations include Guard units deployed to Bosnia and Kosovo for stabilization operations and units deployed to the Middle East and other locations in the war on terrorism. When federalized, Guard units are commanded by the Combatant Commander of the theatre in which they are operating.

Sledgehammer
03-29-2005, 09:58 PM
5. Bush has his sights set on eliminating Social Security and is pushing for a system in which individuals’ contributions go into private accounts. This is a fine way to prepare for your dotage . . . as long as you’re not, y’know, one of those yucky poor people.


Notice no one mentions Galvaston County Texas that opted out of Social Sec. back in the early 80's.

Their plan has been successful for the past 18 years with a return on retirement investments of about 6-1/2%. That is at least three times the return on a like investment in Social Security right now. Even though the return from a stock market investment would have significantly increased the actual return, there was much less risk potential in buying annuities with guaranteed returns. Furthermore, the investments in life insurance annuities are the same for all employees and are handled by an outside company that was chosen through a bid process. There is no need for each employee to be an expert in investments and there is no chance one employee will lose everything and others will make a mint.

Brazoria and Matagorda Counties joined Galveston County in the Alternate Plan in 1982 and Harris County along with some 50 other counties were ready to join when Congress passed a bill in 1983 to save Social Security. That bill increased taxes, gradually raised the retirement age and closed the door on other local governments withdrawing from Social Security. Ironically, it was authored by then Congressman Jack Brooks of Beaumont.

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 10:08 PM
:smt033 ....Welcome Sledge

Sledgehammer
03-29-2005, 10:18 PM
10. Bush’s campaign has cleverly turned many of Democratic nominee John Kerry’s seemingly irrefutable virtues against him. Problem: Bush supported the Vietnam War but stayed home and partied, while Kerry, who was against the war, went off to fight courageously, won medals and came home to tell America of the horrors he’d witnessed. Solution: Swift Boat with a dash of ribbon-gate. Problem: Bush is an inarticulate ignoramus, while Kerry is well-spoken and sophisticated. Solution: portray Kerry as a French-talking, out-of-touch egghead (and make lots of jokes about him being rich, even if your guy comes from big money, too). Problem: Bush is small and graceless, while Kerry is imposing and athletic. Solution: use the footage of Kerry snowboarding and windsurfing to make ads about him "changing direction," impugn his masculinity wherever possible, and joke about his tan. Problem: Bush is mindlessly set on a suicidal, unpopular course in Iraq, while Kerry’s position evolved, like most Americans, from pro to a firm con. Solution: flip-flopper! Hey, this stuff writes itself. Well, actually, horrid little men write it in darkened rooms, and Bush sneakily benefits while publicly deploring the sorry state of modern campaigning.


The cause of Kerry's not being elected.......CLINTON. If he had won....Hillary would have had to wait atleast 8 years to run. By then her voting record would have been more substantial. The Democratic party has not figured it out....they keep moving left....Clinton...move left....Gore (lose) move left...Kerry (lose by a larger margin). Notice Hillary is trying to pawn herself off as a move to the right.

As Kerry's solution of getting the world and UN behind us on Iraq....when our so called friends were getting paid

4 words: OIL FOR FOOD SCANDAL

17 resolutions where Saddam was bribing UN officials I noticed the mainstream media is very absent on this story.


As for Flip Flopper - Can't blame Bush for Kerry's voting record.

When the Swift Boat ads came out the Demo's cried bloody murder where were these same people when Dan Blathers...ooops Rathers started his unknown to him retirement party. **crickets**

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 10:22 PM
Monty I like this board tonight :P

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 10:57 PM
Although I have not read the full 9/11 commission report I have read parts of it. I have to question why a full investigation was not allowed. Why were documents withheld from investigation?

By the US UN inspectors own words, he stated "Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction nor was he looking to posses them. The tubes that were found were not the grade of material needed to make any type of weapon but rather to move hydrogen (the means of electricity)" This is a quote the best I can remember it after watching it on BBC, I believe. He also went on to say that Saddam needed to fool the world in thinking he posed such weapons to avoid invasion of his surrounding neighbors.

Now we go back to 1991 when Dessert Storm broke out. The weapons Iraq had were used up in mass quantities to try to defend themselves. In 1995 the UN came back in and inspected once more to find nothing. Then we had asked Saddam to enter once again and expose what he did not have. Again I would like to remind everyone if anyone should hate this guy it’s me and my family!! Although this guy was evil, he was not stupid, by no means.

Again I would like to ask.. Where is Saddam (evil terror #2) now that he has been captured for over a year?
Why did Bush give up on finding Bin Laden?
Whatever happened to the 52 card deck?
Why did the Bush administration back paddle after the initial accusations?

Man I love politics... Look everyone.. Jimmy hired backup... :-D

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 11:08 PM
Monty....if you do just a small amount of UN Browsing you will see......everybody knew Saddam had WMD..........Where did it go......you can't flush it.......Look to Syria..........Old" W" is shovin Freedom down everybody's throat......Iraq will have very good outlook reported in the next few weeks.......the reports are out now but no Network is reporting on it


Great Source for Fast News (everybody hates him) www.drudgerepoert.com

Jimmy Biggs
03-29-2005, 11:09 PM
I have the 911 Report if you want it......I think its on line anyway

Monty Mikho
03-29-2005, 11:43 PM
I got a copy of the full report.. Blahh dont have time to read the whole thing..LOL I will check your site out.. I have a very open mind and do not always think Im right...

even though most of the time I am... :-D

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 03:47 AM
If Saddam didn't have WMD??? What about the Kerds he WMD'ed until that mudhole was dried up.

Everyone has seem to have forgotten images like this:
http://www.dhushara.com/book/death/gen/kurd.jpg

Sadam Hussein methodicaly gassed 5000 Iraqi Kurds :evil: as an 'experiment' in chemical readiness. However 500,000 additional infant mortalities have occurred through UN sanctions.

Notice the **crickets** from the left side of the aisle in the House and Senate when someone mentions Iraqi WMDs now. :shock:

Where is Bob Kerry now.......with his "Plan" to get our men and women home? Oh the silence is deafening ooops wait I think I hear a slug crawling.

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 03:51 AM
Brazoria and Matagorda Counties joined Galveston County in the Alternate Plan in 1982 and Harris County along with some 50 other counties were ready to join when Congress passed a bill in 1983 to save Social Security. That bill increased taxes, gradually raised the retirement age and closed the door on other local governments withdrawing from Social Security. Ironically, it was authored by then Congressman Jack Brooks of Beaumont.

Oh I forgot to mention that the Congressman Brooks.....party affiliation Democrat.

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 04:16 AM
4. Native Alaskan villages are being destroyed as sea ice melts and huge waves pound the coastline. El Niño caused China’s Yangtze River to overflow, killing more than 3,000 people and leaving 230 million homeless. Despite this and substantial evidence that global warming is real and man-made, for four years, Bush has misrepresented science in order to avoid passing measures that could annoy his campaign supporters in the fossil-fuel and auto industries. Bush has allowed companies to set their own targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and surprise, they set themselves very unchallenging goals.

Fresh doubt has been cast on evidence for global warming following the discovery that a key method of measuring temperature change has exaggerated the warming rate by almost 40 percent.

Studies of temperature records dating back more than a century have seemed to indicate a rise in global temperature of around 0.5C, with much of it occurring since the late 1970s. This has led many scientists to conclude global warming is under way, with the finger of blame usually pointed at man-made emissions of such greenhouse gases as carbon dioxide.

Now an international team of scientists, including researchers from the Met Office in Bracknell, Berkshire, United Kingdom, has found serious discrepancies in the temperature measurements, suggesting that the amount of global warming is much less than previously believed.

The findings have major implications for the climate change debate because sea temperature measurements are a key part of global warming calculations. According to the team, replacing the standard seawater data with the appropriate air data produces a big cut in the overall global warming rate during the last 20 years, from around 0.18C per decade to 0.13C.

This suggests that the widely quoted global warming figure used to persuade governments to take action on greenhouse gas emissions exaggerates the true warming rate by almost 40 percent. The team is now calling for climate experts to switch from seawater data to sea-air temperature measurements.

With this data being evaluated and now questioned the prudent thing is to look at the actual science and see if it is truely applicable or rubbish.

OH LET'S not forget Mr. Clinton's role in this effort either.

At a United Nation Summit in June 1997 -- Clinton rejected demands by the European Union to cut emission of greenhouse gases 15 percent below 1990 levels by 2010, saying that international targets had to have action plans that were both "realistic and binding."

Meanwhile, the Environmental Protection Agency issued tough clean-air standards in June that require polluters to eliminate microscopic soot from the air and reduce ozone levels over 15 years at a potential annual cost of $8.5 billion.

Yes...a 15yr ACTION PLAN the last time I checked Clinton has only been out of office 5yrs.

President Bush has re-entered the global warming debate by unveiling his alternative to the 1997 Kyoto agreement on global warming. His plan offers incentives to businesses to voluntarily reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by an estimated 4.5 percent over 10 years and to reduce power plant emissions.

Bush's plan is dramatically lower than the estimated 33 percent mandatory reduction sought by the Kyoto agreement for the United States, the world's largest producer of greenhouse gas emissions.

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 04:22 AM
I will say I agree with the above statement...

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 04:30 AM
BTW I made the parts for the WMD that bombed Iraq through the gulf war.. I seen what came in for contracts and what came out... No need to explain to me what the outcome of these bombs are.. But does it make us less evil to do the same? Saddam killed 5,000 inocent people.. Should I post the toll of US led innocent deaths? Bottom line is why are we in Iraq when the 9/11 Commission reports clearly shows there was no links to Bin Laden? And if there was why doesn't our govenment show us the proof?? Surely there is a reason and the reason seems to be reflecting our gas prices...

We should have been in Iraq years ago......but we tried the diplomatic route for numerous UN resolutions to no avail. To be honest I think we should have never stopped till Bagdad in the first Gulf War. But that is why I am just a regular guy and not on anyone's cabinet but their kitchen cabinets.

The gas prices are cause we are not alone in consuming large quanities of gas anymore. We are driving and consuming more oil in this country as the economy heats up. Also China's economy is also heating up and putting a strain on the available oil supply for the world. Demand is up and the price of a barrel of crude is up also.

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 04:33 AM
Sledge, I started a new section that all these threads will be moved to. Please join us there as I think you have a lot of knowledge in this area and very informative information. Thanks for your posts...

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 04:37 AM
Cool.......Will do...I am going to go crash out.

Thanks....I enjoy a good educational and informational conversation.

Till later on.

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 04:41 AM
Have a good night.. I will post more rants soon... :-D

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 04:54 AM
:smt033 ....Welcome SledgeThank you Jimmy. Didn't want you to think I was ignoring you.

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 09:32 AM
:-D ....Thanks for the help :P .....Oh yea.....If your a Dem its OK to change enviro laws.....if your a Republican.....your killin kids :roll:

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 02:10 PM
Why is it when Clinton did something good you Republicans always say "It's because Clinton has a majority Republican house" and when it's something bad its "Well its them Democrats!!!" You guys remind me of my dad when I did something good or bad.. I was always my moms kid when I did something wrong but I was his kid when I did something right. Maybe you guys should look in the mirror and wonder why we have ALWAY increased the debt with every Republican President in history. Care to explain?

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 02:29 PM
Why is it when Clinton did something good you Republicans always say "It's because Clinton has a majority Republican house" and when it's something bad its "Well its them Democrats!!!" You guys remind me of my dad when I did something good or bad.. I was always my moms kid when I did something wrong but I was his kid when I did something right. Maybe you guys should look in the mirror and wonder why we have ALWAY increased the debt with every Republican President in history. Care to explain?

Uh...maybe cause the savings are realized with defense budget cuts. Can't bother the untouchable social programs (aka entitlements).

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 02:31 PM
Were we less safe with Clinton in office? Are we more safe now?

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 02:45 PM
Also didn't Ted Kennedy discount the pending elections in Iraq only days before the landmark "FREE" electorial process was to occur?

I don't agree with Bush on everything (ie. Immigration and border issues) but on 9/12/01 I was happy he was in office.

And characterizing Bush reading children stories while 9/11 was formulating......now if Bush had jumped up and was "up and att'em". I could see the rheteric now...."Bush Warmonger Before Getting All the Facts".

I know personally when I heard the first plane struck the WTC I thought to myself...."Damn that guy was lost!!!" When the second plane struck....I said, "Damn it is an attack!!!!"

I have been on contingency task forces and in response to certain actions......there is a process that is started automatically like the (fight or flight instictive reaction to an action). For example once it was confirmed keyword confirmed the first step is to get POTUS (Pres. Of The US) moving to a secure location preferably a hardened location.

The military and government is too big to wait for a individual person to respond when under DIRECT attack. I know this firsthand I was on Captiol Hill when the Oklahoma City bombing occured. I saw things go into play automatically right in front of me.

Just some more points of interest in my mind.....for random consumption.

Monty.....thank you for stirring the pot to get the dormant thoughts going again.

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 02:52 PM
I got a big spoon.. :-D

Like I said earlier. It's very nice to know someone is willing to share their knowledge on this subject without getting all upset.. I have learned a lot by your posts. I don't agree with them all but I agree to disagree...

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 02:53 PM
Now go tell Jimmy to suck an egg in the economy post.. Also there is a drug post I would like your input on...

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 02:55 PM
Were we less safe with Clinton in office? Are we more safe now?

Let me answer that question with a question.

Are we just as safe as before.....but only now we know more?

Remember the USS Cole Bombing and Beruit Towers?

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 03:02 PM
Clinton....Is makin his legassy on Republican's Contract with America......As a person I like him....his downfall was giving people positions that the had no clue what they were doing (ie Madalin Albrite) That made him have to micro-manage everything.....A good Leader/Ceo delagates to people he knows can handle the job....Reagon.....you Lib's said he was a warmonger and stupid.....as he out smarted you guys (just like Bush is doing to ya)

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 03:03 PM
Personally I like to see result and not told about them. 52 card deck and have done NOTHING to these people. I still wonder what Saddam is doing right now.. Doesn't anyone else. It makes me wonder how scared Bin Laden is to be captured.. The best way to put fear into people is by responding to their actions.. Not talk about them and hope everyone forgets...

Do we really know more now? I aint the CIA or FBI but I have known the same things that are known now from this computer chair.. I seen the videos of the Afgan Gorilla's many years ago.. Remember we were braggin about them on TV how they were gonna help us? They were gonna fight a war for us? Remember? Well when you do business with crooks you will get burned in the long haul..

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 06:29 PM
Looks like Mr. Powell has some interesting stuff he is sharing with the world.. Let me guess you Republicans will bash him on anything he has to say and say he has a hidden agenda... That's what has happened thus far.. The person you backed is now the enemy for speaking out... :roll:

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 06:58 PM
I don't think we should be discussing exit stratagy on Iraq.....it will happen.....look at Fallusia......8 weeks ago.....then today.....the citizens stood up and took back their town.....its happening all over.....FREEDOM ALWAYS WINS

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 08:32 PM
Jimmy please define "freedom"?

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 08:41 PM
Not having someone come to your house force sex with your daughter....take the yellow bullet and use it for the Military.....not being able to post right here tonight without any retrabution to you or your family.....little things like that :roll:

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 08:48 PM
After the Gulf War I was over there on business.....Driving outside the city of Jeddah I was shocked when there was check point leaving town.....if you didn't have correct paperwork you couldn't leave town.......I never experienced a more inner troubling feeling ever.....until the next day when I was taking pictures and locked up......that was worse.....until the next day when the Police beat me at the airport..........when I got back to JFK I kissed the dirty carpet

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 08:51 PM
Is China a free country? Nope but their rape cases are a lot less than ours. Poland over threw the communist party and they are in pretty bad shape. The same goes with the former Soviet Union.. AND Yes the military can take the yellow bullet if they needed to.. So don’t fool yourself...

Is free speech really free speech here? Ask Howard Stern this question..
Is the right to bare arms a true statement?
Is a dog that’s considered a cop when shot not the same as a cop searching your car? Where are your rights when that happens?
Are you innocent till proven guilty? Or guilty till proven innocent?
Do you have a right to protect yourself? Truly do you?

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 09:14 PM
Howard Stern......started Radio Knowing the rules.....the point can be made without the language.......He is free to go to Satilite Radio.......Now think about it don't you think he does it for the free advertising he gets on the News/in the papers

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 09:16 PM
Where did Howard Stern say anything that was FCC regulated? THey couldn't even give him frigen guide lines!!! WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE!!!

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 10:21 PM
Is China a free country? Nope but their rape cases are a lot less than ours. Poland over threw the communist party and they are in pretty bad shape. The same goes with the former Soviet Union.. AND Yes the military can take the yellow bullet if they needed to.. So don’t fool yourself...

Great points......now apply the same logic in a basic situation and it should become very clear.

You have a class room of 10 yr old kids.....that has a strict teacher.....now remove that teacher without replacement. How do you think that class will fuction? Probably not very well. Well when freedom is returned to a group or society that basically proverbial 10yr olds from a democratic standpoint you will experience some bumps in the roads. At that point like a responsible adult more established democratic societies should step in and provide guidance. Notice I said guidance.....not LEAD.

One of the US's most staunch critics in the middle east I can't remember this Palestinian Leader's name but he made the comment that the voting process in Iraq is a cannon that will heard boom throughout the Middle East.

The regimes in the Middle East are taking notice. Note the new position of the Royal Family in Saudia Arabia. If they don't start some major reforming soon.....the people might make their will known in a way that might not be so tolerant.

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 10:38 PM
:-D

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 10:49 PM
"the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."

Samuel P. Huntington


Would the above be a true statement? History tells us so.. So do you want me to believe we are now a civilized society?

Jimmy Biggs
03-30-2005, 10:53 PM
Where did Howard Stern say anything that was FCC regulated? THey couldn't even give him frigen guide lines!!! WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE!!!

There's the 7 no no words thats the only rules........

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 10:56 PM
Then why was Stern fined for not using them? Maybe Mr Powell will enter and answer us.. But then again he wouldn't answer Stern either..

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 10:56 PM
"the West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."

Samuel P. Huntington


Would the above be a true statement? History tells us so.. So do you want me to believe we are now a civilized society?I would like to think we are currently a civilized society.

A civilized society helps it's emenies in a time of need like Iran and the largely Muslim populations in SE Asia after the tsunami.

We have our troops in harms way helping the Iraqi get their act together. It is the militants or terrorists (I can't call them insurgents) that are killing their own for expressing their desire to self govern.

Monty Mikho
03-30-2005, 11:01 PM
You would like to think that but here are the facts of most generous countries..

1. Luxembourg $352.30 per person
2. Norway $307.95 per person
3. Denmark $302.72 per person
4. Netherlands $216.71 per person
5. Sweden $191.48 per person
6. Switzerland $150.30 per person
7. France $104.68 per person
8. United Kingdom $74.88 per person
9. Belgium $74.25 per person
10. Finland $73.01 per person
11. Ireland $72.11 per person
12. Japan $71.53 per person
13. Germany $67.96 per person
14. Austria $50.07 per person
15. Australia $45.30 per person
16. Canada $40.36 per person
17. Spain $33.07 per person
18. Portugal $26.82 per person
19. New Zealand $25.23 per person
20. United States $23.76 per person

Sledgehammer
03-30-2005, 11:23 PM
Point noted....but lets not forget the our bolstering of Japan's economy by providing a defense system. Our support of Taiwan and their sovern rule.

That is just one line item where some will be out spending us per capita.

Please note a few of the richest per capita nations.....that are not in the Top Twenty....things that make you say hmmmmmmmmm :-D

Rod Lenz
03-30-2005, 11:26 PM
All right Sledge........When and where can I tune in to your talk show?

fasterw18s
03-31-2005, 01:19 AM
Who said I only blame one guy? I only blame the present guy... 4 years of war.. 8 years of peace and now 8 years of war.. It's either coincidence or the Bush name is part to blame.

Remember we all base our opinions off facts and/or opinions of others. The only ignorant statement made will be one with no research and/or knowledge in this subject.

I'm the kind of guy who wants reasons for actions. Bush stated Bin Laden was to blame for all of this. Now please explain to me how the news channels knew who was behind this before our CIA figured it out? How is it we couldn't find Saddam but Jesse Jackson can have an interview with him way back in the day? What happened to prime suspect number 2 anyway? If anyone hates Saddam more than anyone its going to be me. My family was in direct path of this guy!! Where is Bin Laden? Is he still our mission?

We were blind sided by this guy and I am yet to hear how he told the truth about any of this mess. Remember we hired Saddam to take out Iran. We hired Bin Laden to take out (drawing a blank here on the war we had him fight in the 80's). Maybe we need to worry about what is happening to America now since this on going war is doing nothing in the overall picture of things. You will never stop evil. Gandhi tried it and it didn't work. Buda tried it and it didn't work. The Pope tried it and it doesn't work. How do we expect world peace when we can't even get along with our next door neighbors?

Another question? What ever happened to the CIA when they got caught trafficking drug into this country? Oh yeah OJ became the big headline in the papers. One man in L.A. went down and that's all she wrote.

These are my opinions and question that I have.. Rod I still love ya.. :-D

I don't have time to read all, so I'll comment on this completely asinine part first.

Monty, ummm, what about the clttin(I know how to spell your heros name) administration have been offered osamibinlami, but refused to take him, even after the attack on the Cole, and different embassies?

Hey I know, because they didn't want the responsibility of fighting terrorism, and to them the small amount of lives lost was worth not dealing with the hassle!

No, we may not stop evil, but I can guarantee you one thing, sittin around pretending its not out there and hoping the bad guys will leave us alone won't fix it either!

FEAR garners respect, not pussified niceness!!!!!

Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 02:13 AM
Well let me ask this then. Why didn't Bush take him down before 9/11? Why didn't Bush Sr. take him down? Why didn't Regan take him down? Because we hired the man to fight a war for us. Nobody wanted this guy before this. Nobody wanted Saddam before this. This is all post 9/11 stuff. Now we are on a hunt for a 6'5" Arab with health problems. We can see a hockey puck from space but we can't find this man... Now that makes me go Hmmmmm.. I remember talking to a retired special forces group member who looked me right in the eyes and said "Give me and my platoon 6 months and I would guarantee his head on a plate" He said this with confidence. Now why can't we find him? Why wasn't Bush proactive rather than reactive when the CIA confronted him with the evidence? Maybe we need to look at that..

Great topic guys.. I have learned a lot from this topic and hope it continues with tempers held to a minimum...

Sledgehammer
03-31-2005, 02:49 AM
All right Sledge........When and where can I tune in to your talk show?lol thanks.....I am a frequent talkshow caller here in the Washington DC market.

Some here in the Rep. party want me to run for a local office. I laugh....me a recently returning college student that is ET Challenged.

It is going to be an early night for me......I am overtired right now.

Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 02:53 AM
Point noted....but lets not forget the our bolstering of Japan's economy by providing a defense system. Our support of Taiwan and their sovern rule.

That is just one line item where some will be out spending us per capita.

Please note a few of the richest per capita nations.....that are not in the Top Twenty....things that make you say hmmmmmmmmm :-D

And have you noticed the respect level these countries have shown us? Maybe we need to learn from history rather than continue to make the same mistake.. Just an idea...

Rod Lenz
03-31-2005, 02:59 AM
We Don't Get Fooled Again.........The Who oops wrong thread again...DOH!!

Sledgehammer
03-31-2005, 03:11 AM
And have you noticed the respect level these countries have shown us? Maybe we need to learn from history rather than continue to make the same mistake.. Just an idea...

I am not a big supporter of providing major defensive support for a sovereign nation like we have done for Germany and Japan without some sort of major compensation.

I do understand that it provides us a foothold in the Pacific and European areas. But in the next breath....like I used to tell people on the gov't contracts I worked on.....I am not here to make friends but to get a job done. The US is the big kid on the block and there are others that resent that fact. Most importantly we need to be responsible with our use of power.

The Iraq deal was not a popular decision as discussed already in other posts and throughout the news and media. The major ones that took issue with the US had the most to lose by us helping the Iraqis restructure and move towards a self government democratic / republic model.

Monty you of all people should understand human nature when it comes to respect. With your success in the past years human nature's ugly head rears itself and jealousy and resentment show up. A lot of countries resent the US's influence and wealth.

Perfect example is Mexico is looking at suing the US in international court and if I remember correctly Arizona for passing legislation to prohibit treating illegal aliens in the public healthcare system because they are going bankrupt. The money that seems to find its way "south of the border" is a major component of the Mexican economy.

Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 03:22 AM
Now I will ask you this. I am a business owner that works primarily for the big 3 auto manufactures. They are my source of income and make up better than 90% of it. Why would I chop the big 3's legs? I think we need to ask why Saddam would have done the same if the US was its major source of income.. I am still trying to find the link between Iraq and 9/11. I believe the 9/11 commission is trying to do the same. I believe Collin Powell is looking for the same as well now.

Saddam is captured and the evil is gone. Why continue to put American lives on the line? If you remember correctly, Saddam had the US supporting him when he took power.. If you don’t remember my family sure does. So what good did we do there? Stop doing business with crooks and backing them and move on... Plan and simple...

Sledgehammer
03-31-2005, 04:31 AM
Now I will ask you this. I am a business owner that works primarily for the big 3 auto manufactures. They are my source of income and make up better than 90% of it. Why would I chop the big 3's legs? I think we need to ask why Saddam would have done the same if the US was its major source of income.. I am still trying to find the link between Iraq and 9/11. I believe the 9/11 commission is trying to do the same. I believe Collin Powell is looking for the same as well now.

Saddam is captured and the evil is gone. Why continue to put American lives on the line? If you remember correctly, Saddam had the US supporting him when he took power.. If you don’t remember my family sure does. So what good did we do there? Stop doing business with crooks and backing them and move on... Plan and simple...

As I stated in another post......if we were to pull out right now it would not be very responsible as a "superpower" and would most likely destabilize the region. And even more importantly.....end up with something worst than Saddam.

The terrorist activity that is going on in Iraq.....they were not expecting the magnatude that we are experiencing. Huge arms caches were given to these groups before Saddam was toppled. Almost limitless supply of arms and ammo and outsiders and Iraqis being recruited to fight. It is no wonder it appears to be bigger than planned. The terrorist actions are showing that we are winning the fight.....the first hand reports from troops that are returning state we are winning.

The media is not telling the whole story......they did the samething here in the Washington DC area when it was titled the "Murder Capital of the US". Had people thinking if you set foot on the sidewalk in DC you would be shot. I had a phonecall like that the other day....lost in Baltimore.....oh look black people standing on the corner.....WE CAN'T STOP we will get SHOT!!! is what I heard in a panic thru the phone. After a few of my calming STFUs I was able to gain control of the situation and direct them to I-95. LOL

Sleep deprived ramblings of a cerebrally active black man....zzzZZZZZZ

Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 05:13 AM
hey Hey HEY!! Detroit is the murder capital of the US!! Don’t make us prove it again!!! :-D

I posted the facts on the top 50 most dangerous countries in the world in this or another thread. Iraq was not one of them...

My uncle has finally moved into government in Iraq and I believe he is happy (he was on TV a few times but I really hate to say shit because I did not know the position of his safety). But I will say that everyone in government their is US appointed. Now you're gonna ask "How the hell can that be? They voted!!" Well if I let you vote for me, my brother, my other brother, my mom or dad you can bet your ass that my family is in!!! He is a very good man with a lot of ideas. He was on the run from Saddam for decades before the US was able to contact him to help with this operation. Will it all be good now? Ask some and they will say YES.. Ask me and I will say no.. Ask any country that has been under occupation if they have it better now or then..

Now let’s get to some points here that may be realistic and one that someone can comprehend. Not too long ago black were treated like dirt (in the 60's). Although racism is to be frowned upon now do you think it has changed people’s views much? You better bet your ass not at all. It just doesn’t put it out in the open as much. I believe your statement above proves that. People will always believe what is fed to them on the boob tube. Most cannot and will not think or look outside the box. They want information fed to them with a spoon and swallow every bit of it. <<< Way outside this topic and we will talk about it I promise you...

So to push democracy onto people and forcing them to swallow it will not work. If they want it they will buy into it. I do not believe dropping mass bombs for 10 years in Iran/Iraq’s war, 40 days and 40 continuous nights of bombing after the Iran/Iraq war, starving the country for 10 years and going back in to bomb the shit out of them again is a good sell by the people who bombed them. Iraq is a religious country!! VERY RELIGIOUS!! You cannot change their ways and beliefs.. Just like we can't stop racism here. This could have been handled a 1000 different ways.. But we picked the mass destruction way..

fasterw18s
03-31-2005, 09:28 AM
Yeah, cuz your buddy saddam was such a gentler kinder dictator aye Monty?

Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 02:01 PM
Yeah, cuz your buddy saddam was such a gentler kinder dictator aye Monty?

If I have posted once I have posted a 1000 times that Saddam is a fuck stick. I never denied that. But remember who assisted him to get into power. Or do we need to forget about that part?

Monty Mikho
03-31-2005, 02:25 PM
Liberals vs. Conservatives? It's the Corruption, Stupid

by Maureen Farrell

Following the recent terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia, George Bush issued his standard no-nonsense, nonsensical declaration. "[T]he United States will find the killers and they will learn the meaning of American justice. . . Just ask the Taliban," he said.

Never mind that the Saudis, like the Taliban, are also accused of harboring and financing terrorists http://tinyurl.com/bztk or that Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and the anthrax killer are as elusive as Iraq's fabled arsenal. And didn't George get the memo about Al Qaeda and the Taliban regrouping in Afghanistan? http://tinyurl.com/c2gx No matter. Now that we've started down this perpetual war path, there's no need to fume over mushroom cloud propaganda. So what if we just fought a war for fictitious reasons and our national treasury is being looted like an Iraqi nuclear site? http://tinyurl.com/bgc0 And, though the masterminds behind the 9/11 atrocities have yet to "learn the meaning of American justice," George Bush is still trying to get to the bottom of it all http://tinyurl.com/bp12. <Insert eye-roll here>

As sad and frustrating as this is, duped citizens continue to make this an issue of "liberals versus conservatives," while missing the larger point. Attacks on George Bush are not attacks on America and this game of "which team are you on?" is just plain stupid. We live in an age of chronic dissembling http://tinyurl.com/1v3w and fear-driven jingoism, fueled by desperate attempts to sweep uncomfortable truths beneath the star-spangled carpet. There is something deeply and fundamentally wrong -- something corrosive to our core.

Think that's just hyperbole? A case of Henny Penny on crack? Though admittedly biased, George Bush's sizable "scorecard of evil" http://tinyurl.com/byvi reveals that "we the people" are not his No. 1 priority. Since signing his first executive order restricting public access to presidential records http://tinyurl.com/byvo, George Bush has lied to the public and international community http://tinyurl.com/c2ii, while repeatedly thwarting the September 11 investigation. Though some journalists have taken heat for asking certain questions http://tinyurl.com/c1qs, with victims' families speaking out, http://tinyurl.com/bosl, http://tinyurl.com/bost and James Baker's law firm representing the Saudis against 9/11 families, http://tinyurl.com/by9d, concerns of government incompetence and malfeasance are not solely the province of the tin foil hat crowd. http://tinyurl.com/41e0

Also troubling are government officials' war profiteering ties http://tinyurl.com/bu0e, Halliburton's $7 billion no-bid contracts http://tinyurl.com/bzrj and Carlyle connections http://tinyurl.com/bfdz. As Dan Briody, author of THE IRON TRIANGLE: Inside the Secret World of The Carlyle Group, recently put it: "The best way to explain the Carlyle Group is to use a euphemism that Dwight Eisenhower employed back in the 1960s, when he was leaving office. He warned the country of something called the military/industrial complex and that is probably the best way to describe what the Carlyle Group does." (Eisenhower also warned that "The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist" and that "We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes"-- as is the case today http://tinyurl.com/c0p7).

Explaining how former Defense Secretary Frank Carlucci's membership in the Carlyle Group strengthened the iron triangle between politics, industry and defense, Briody exposed an ethical kink rarely covered in the mainstream press. "George Bush Sr. is working for this company that is the 11th largest defense contractor in the country at the same time his son is in office waging war," Briody said, later adding, "It is clearly a conflict of interest. And conflicts of interest lead to potential corruption." http://tinyurl.com/bzs8 http://tinyurl.com/9bmu

And if that doesn't convince you something is amiss, how about contrasting our noble beginnings to where we stand today? Thomas Jefferson's vision for our nation is imbued with John Locke's interpretation of government of, by and for the people. "Great mistakes in the ruling part, will be borne by the people without mutiny or murmur," Locke wrote. "But if a long train of abuses. . . . all tending the same way, make the design visible to the people . . . it is not to be wondered that they should then rouse themselves, and endeavor to put the rule into such hands which may secure to them the end for which government was at first erected." And so it goes, as Jefferson wrote, that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

While Locke informed Jefferson's views, today, theorists cite a variety of political philosophies at work -- all of them favoring the ruling class over the people they supposedly serve. William Pfaff, for example, examines Leo Strauss' role in shaping Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and other hawks' views. Strauss, Pfaff explains, felt that citizens need to be deceived about political realities, while an elite few guard the truth. "The ostensibly hidden truth is that expediency works; there is no certain God to punish wrongdoing; and virtue is unattainable by most people. Machiavelli was right. There is a natural hierarchy of humans, and rulers must restrict free inquiry and exploit the mediocrity and vice of ordinary people so as to keep society in order." http://tinyurl.com/bx04

Dr. Martha Nussbaum, Professor of Law and Ethics at the University of Chicago Law School, on the other hand, cites Thomas Hobbes' influence -- and points to the Bush administration's callous scorn of long held moral standards and human rights concerns. Embracing a tact that is "deeply alien to America's founding traditions," the Bush administration, she contends, is "casting the United States as the Hobbesian sovereign needed to bring order to an amoral realm." http://tinyurl.com/bybu

Some equate such musings with paranoia, as if there were never a time in American history when vigilant citizens needed to decipher actual agendas through a misleading mist of stated policy. They use words like "cabal" and "conspiracy theory" and say concerns about the neo-conservative's influence http://tinyurl.com/c0vf are based on anti-Semitism -- failing to acknowledge that when the Wolfowitz Doctrine was leaked to the New York Times in 1992 http://tinyurl.com/c0px, people weren't leery because of Wolfowitz's ethnicity, but because his Strangelovian plan for American dominance and aggression doesn't mesh with American values.

"The attitude of the American public toward the external projection of American power has been. . . ambivalent," Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote. "The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor." Wolfowitz and other members of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) understand this, too. "The process of transformation," they wrote, of their vision for Pax Americana "is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event-like a new Pearl Harbor." They got what they needed.

But considering that Wolfowitz's decree is more than a decade old, America's amoral spiral can't be blamed entirely on September 11. PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses" http://tinyurl.com/7onk called for preemptive serial wars, unilateral aggression and the dismissal of the UN even before the 2000 election, while The National Security Strategy of the United States of America http://tinyurl.com/bxwf merely reiterated foregone conclusions.

As America asserts her unilateral supremacy, our reputation suffers. "I believe, as a Jefferson scholar who's worked at this for fifteen years," Thomas Jefferson Radio Hour's Clay Jenkinson recently said, "if Jefferson could see what's going on now, he'd be appalled by what the United States is doing." Jon Stewart recently joked that Air Force One now has a bumper sticker that reads "How's My Diplomacy? Dial 1-800-Kiss-My-A**" and former UN weapons inspection chief Richard Butler succinctly described America's new arrogance this way: "I've talked to senior members of the Bush Administration," he said "and if [people] are asking "Well, why are they behaving this way?" Well, one can say they're just plainly selfish or this is the consequence of September 11 and so on. Not really. It's this -- this administration has a view of the special character of the United States, the singular and exclusive character that is new. I've talked to them about it and they make this plain. They say, "We are the sole super power, we're therefore the exceptional country, we're outside of international law. Others have to obey the law and obey the rules, but we don't." I mean, I'm not making that up. If they were sitting here tonight, Mark, the people I've talked with would readily agree. They'd say "Yeah, that's right, that's who we are. We are the exceptional country and we don't have to obey the law because we're different." . . . . And I ask you to recognize what happens when the most powerful country, the same as the most powerful people within a domestic society, consider themselves to be above the law. . . ." http://tinyurl.com/bx02

As this attitude extends to America's right to use tactical nuclear weapons and wage war simply for show, its inherent danger becomes obvious to anyone outside of Stepford. This past January, Bob Novak stunned Capital Gang panel members when he said weapons of mass destruction weren't the real reason for war in Iraq. Bush administration officials, he said, wanted "a war as a manifestation of U.S. power in the world and as a sign that the United States is capable of changing the balance of power and the political map of the Middle East." When Mark Shields accused Novak of a putting forth a "pretty serious charge," Novak responded that a senior Bush administration official asked, "Well, if we don't hit in Iraq, where are we going to hit?" http://tinyurl.com/c0ft. In April, ABC News reported that "To build its case for war with Iraq, the Bush administration argued that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but some officials now privately acknowledge the White House had another reason for war -- a global show of American power and democracy." http://tinyurl.com/c0gh

Citing "a deep moral sadness about the current conduct of the United States, as our leadership shows contempt for [a] vision of a multilateral world," Martha Nussbaum explained that, "Moral norms do not cease to exist because current leaders do not believe in them." As the government turns its back on international law, the Geneva Convention http://tinyurl.com/c0n0 and our Bill of Rights http://tinyurl.com/c0lt, it's time to take stock in who we are.

Even though jaded citizens think 2000 election tampering http://tinyurl.com/c1i7 was just politics as usual and believe this administration's lies about Saddam's imminent threat were defendable, those who view Bush's Machiavellian tactics as a means to an end are often the first to champion plans for democratizing the Middle East (also based upon fables, it seems. http://tinyurl.com/bxc3). Democracy, however, depends upon the consent, not deception, of the governed. And is democracy, whether here or in the Mideast, truly possible if those deceiving the public obtain power through questionable means?

"[M]oral norms are not docile, submissive things." Nussbaum asserts. "They do not quit the scene when people treat them with contempt. Instead, they call us to outrage and protest." Bush apologists might begin by asking themselves how they would feel if the September 11 attacks happened on Clinton's watch. What if he had taken a month-long vacation in the midst of several warnings? http://tinyurl.com/c1ik, http://tinyurl.com/c1j3 Even if they are inclined to say "hindsight is 20/20" -- how upset might they be if Clinton won the White House after his cronies shaved voter rolls? Or if his father and family friends profited from wars he waged? Or if he attempted to block investigations into the worst terrorist attack on American soil http://tinyurl.com/bv8d? Would they be ok with a Clinton appointee saying, as Condoleeza Rice did, that nobody imagined terrorists using planes as weapons -- even though the CIA, as this item from the Memory Hole shows, was practicing for such an event on September 11, 2001? http://tinyurl.com/c1j7

Fair-minded folks have to see that this is far more serious than blue dresses, cigars and failed land deals. "Bush protected himself and his friends." Jim Ridgeway wrote. "What he left uncovered was the rest of us." http://tinyurl.com/c1iw Anyone who can cut through the layers of propaganda http://tinyurl.com/278c and step outside their fear, might finally get a fuller picture of how the Bush administration operates http://tinyurl.com/ab7e. Perhaps then they might see that dissidents are not anti-American -- or even partisan -- but are concerned about corruption, incompetence, and our children's future. No matter how Rush Limbaugh or others spin it, it's never been a matter of hating America. It's a matter of loving "We the People" -- liberals and conservatives alike.