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redvictor
10-14-2005, 07:55 PM
got an offer to buy some 60mm Tial wastegates. At the moment i'm planning on Turbonetics racegates x 2. Are these Tial ones better? anyone use them in big HP applications? planned HP is 2300 on pump gas eventually...
need to know ASAP....
Bobalos
10-14-2005, 11:20 PM
Andy,

all the folks on the Turbo Rustang site like them. I dont have any first hand experience, but they seem to work well for them. I have an innovative one & its a REALLY nice piece. Billet top on it, machined valve, nice unit. the Tials are bling bling with thier anodized tops, but I dunno about performance.

Besides you dont need no stinking waste gates, get 40 Lbs of boost @ idle thats the way I would run it. LOL.

Bob
redvictor
10-15-2005, 10:35 AM
Thanks Bob,i'll think i'll pass on the bling stuff.The one from Innovative is a turbonetics one no?
LOL,only 40lbs at idle?...... chicken feed... :-D
these are the ones i'm going to use...
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/valves_racegate.htm
Bobalos
10-15-2005, 12:09 PM
I dont remember if its the Pro Gate or the Indy Gate. Here is a link to thier site. http://www.innovativeturbo.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/0097.2.3426900421473132309 I dunno if its made by Turbonetics or not.

Bob
Bobalos
10-15-2005, 12:16 PM
what boost controller you going to use? I have heard that some folks have good luck with the MSD unit, but I have also heard that this guy is a good one. http://dennisc99.home.mchsi.com/AMS1000Manual.htm

Bob
Novachris
10-19-2005, 11:37 AM
Red,

I've been using a single 46mm Tial piece for some time and it's truely a well designed unit. I'm currently at the 800hp level and there are no issues with a single 46mm. I understand some 2000hp beasts run twin 60's without issue as well. Either way, Turbonetics or Tial, can't go wrong.

You're right about the bling. I wanted to leave it on my desk... too pretty...
redvictor
10-19-2005, 09:06 PM
Bob,i'm planning on using the electromotive TEC3 boost controller that comes in the unit itself.when used with a solenoid it works quite well i'm led to believe.We are not allowed any pressurised bottles at the moment so it cannot be done by air.I know Jim uses that method with good success...
Nova,thanks for the info.I have gone with the Racegates now...
I'll post a piccy up tomorrow of the one turbo....it's large..lol
Bobalos
10-19-2005, 09:56 PM
it's large

Isen't that something that EVERY guy wants to be able to say? ROFLMBO.

Bob
redvictor
10-20-2005, 07:05 PM
as promised.....http://pic.piczo.com/img/i32663166_31036_2.jpg

bob,it's larger than yours..lmao
Bobalos
10-20-2005, 08:21 PM
thats a pretty small coffee cup you have there. is that one of those Japanese tea cups? <gr>

how big is it?

Bob
redvictor
10-20-2005, 08:40 PM
the cup?....about 2"...lmao...
The impeller size is 88mm but the housing is 13" across....But it's got some real tricks in it..inconel exhaust turbine,twin port entry,radial grooves etc....they (Holset)will come down to the dyno and bring back pressure sensors,different housings to optimise it all if it isn't already...Now that's service.
Bobalos
10-21-2005, 12:23 AM
:shock: :shock: , Cool stuff there amigo.

Bob
redvictor
10-21-2005, 04:19 PM
i lied btw,it's 10" across.......having a problem reading the tape measure here.... :-D
Bobalos
10-21-2005, 04:33 PM
just put it down in metric units, my TI can do the conversion. ROFLOL.

Bob