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Maliboost
05-18-2007, 01:47 PM
Hey Guys, I need some help here. I went to the range yesterday to go shoot my new Ruger & figured I would buy a small box of each of thier ammunition & DANG was I confused. they had a whole case of ammo for .22, but fortunately/unfortunately, they only had 2 choices for .22 LR. one was a Billion pack for $400 & the other was 50 rounds in a box. so.... really I had no choice I was not going to buy 5000 rounds of something that might not shoot well in either of my guns. So I get on the net & start looking around @ ammo & W:rolleyes: W am I confused now.
what I have listed below is what I found in the .22 LR section on Midway.com. Im sure that it also applies to other ammo, but for right now this is what Im concerned with. I was hoping that someone would be able to explain the differences in these things.
What I do with the gun is make holes in paper. I will occationally take it out & shoot holes in cans & bottles, & I think I am going to make one of those spinning targets or maybe even one of the resetting ones, but thats for later. I would like something thats gonna shoot reliably & not screw up my barrell.
TIA, guys.
Bob
Round nose
Hollow point
Flat nose
truncated cone
lead
Plated Lead (what plating I dunno)
Copper plated
Stinger
Magnum
Mini-Mag
High Velocity
Standard velocity
Low Velocity
Super sonic
Sub sonic
this is just the .22 LR stuff that they have for rifles, they have another whole section for .22LR for pistols. if I read the discriptions you can tell that some of them are round nose & some hollow point, I get that & some are higher velocity than others (I get that as well), but ............ they dont tell you what the others are. how are you supposed to know what to shoot???
Eley Practice
Eley Club Extra
Eley Match EPS
Eley Biathalon
Eley Sport
Eley High Velocity
Eley Silheoux
Eley Super Silheoux
thanks guys
Bob
Donut
05-18-2007, 02:50 PM
How accurate are you trying to be? If you are just plinking, I'd say go to Wal-Mart and Big-5 and buy a bunch of different ammo and just see what works best. Wally world usually has bricks or value/bulk-packs (which range from 500-550 rounds, depending on which brand) for $10, and Big 5 has 'em for $15, but might have a wider selection.
Maliboost
05-18-2007, 03:36 PM
this gun is supposed to do
I would routinely have one dime size hole at 50 yards
Mind you thats off of a shooting stand (or whatever they call it), with good amunition. I would be happy with 1/2" (or 3/8" someday) @ 25 yards off of my sand bags.
they have a little bigger selection @ the other range I might try going there & shooting what they have & when I find something I like just order it on line. I dont like going to that other range, they are kind of jack asses there. they have a nice range & a larger selection, but ...............
thanks again
Bob
Shelton_Barrs
05-19-2007, 10:44 AM
Personally I would pick something that is widely available and at a reasonable price. If you are only "plinking" no need for hollow points or higher velocity loads either. I would pick a good round nose ammo from Federal or Remington and see how they shoot. Unless you are moving out way past 50 yds the higher end ammo I don't think would show you much improvement.
MrMike990
05-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Hey Guys, I need some help here. I went to the range yesterday to go shoot my new Ruger & figured I would buy a small box of each of thier ammunition & DANG was I confused. they had a whole case of ammo for .22, but fortunately/unfortunately, they only had 2 choices for .22 LR. one was a Billion pack for $400 & the other was 50 rounds in a box. so.... really I had no choice I was not going to buy 5000 rounds of something that might not shoot well in either of my guns. So I get on the net & start looking around @ ammo & W:rolleyes: W am I confused now.
what I have listed below is what I found in the .22 LR section on Midway.com. Im sure that it also applies to other ammo, but for right now this is what Im concerned with. I was hoping that someone would be able to explain the differences in these things.
What I do with the gun is make holes in paper. I will occationally take it out & shoot holes in cans & bottles, & I think I am going to make one of those spinning targets or maybe even one of the resetting ones, but thats for later. I would like something thats gonna shoot reliably & not screw up my barrell.
TIA, guys.
Bob
Round nose
Hollow point
Flat nose
truncated cone
lead
Plated Lead (what plating I dunno)
Copper plated
Stinger
Magnum
Mini-Mag
High Velocity
Standard velocity
Low Velocity
Super sonic
Sub sonic
this is just the .22 LR stuff that they have for rifles, they have another whole section for .22LR for pistols. if I read the discriptions you can tell that some of them are round nose & some hollow point, I get that & some are higher velocity than others (I get that as well), but ............ they dont tell you what the others are. how are you supposed to know what to shoot???
Eley Practice
Eley Club Extra
Eley Match EPS
Eley Biathalon
Eley Sport
Eley High Velocity
Eley Silheoux
Eley Super Silheoux
thanks guys
Bob
Bob, for general plinking and paper punching I'll usually buy the cheapest brass cased stuff by the case. For bullseye pistol shooting I have used Federal Gold Medal Match, Lapua Pistol King and various Eley Tennex Match rounds. For hunting I like CCI Stingers, Remington and Eley subsonic HP's.
A rimfire round headspaces off the rim and there can can be wide variety of rim thicknesses even in the same lot of ammo. Thus, many serious rimfire shooters will sort ammo by rim thickness.
round nose- round nose shaped bullet
HP- round nose, with a hollow core
flat nose- shaped bullet with flat point
Trunicated: conical shape with a flat nose- looks like a styrofoam cup. This is a good bullet for hunting especially when driven at high velocities.
Eley is a preminum brand that has better quality control and uses premium powders powders such as the brand Vihtavuori. It's names are broken down by various disciplines.
http://www.22ammo.com/faq.html
http://www.22ammo.com/cci1.html
http://www.22ammo.com/eley.html
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/feed.htm
Mike
Maliboost
05-19-2007, 12:51 PM
thanks a bunch Mike, I will read up on it, shoot a bunch & then see what happens.
bob
I shot competitive .22 for years, so this is kind of my forte. Most accurate bang for the buck is Wolf ammo. Hell, we went out and won at the National Matches at Camp Perry with the stuff.
Federal rifle ammo has gone way downhill over the years. Their old Ultra used to be the best stuff around, but since then, junk.
You will pay an arm and a leg for Eley. A brick of the good stuff (EPS) can run you nearly $150. Practice or Club is good for 99% of what you'll want to do with it, and will outperform anything you can buy locally. If you stumble across any Fiocchi (red or blue box), red is the rifle ammo, blue is the pistol, and they both shoot equally well from a rifle, although the red groups a bit better out at 100 yards.
Lapua Midas is good stuff also, but again, you're going to pay for it.
The only cheap plinker stuff I would ever buy local is CCI green tag, and even that was probably 7 or 8 years back.
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