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13-1 bbc 509 cubes brodix 2x heads pro race fogger, using autolite #2594 is there a better choice of plug out there?
thanks again , joel
85Camaro
08-09-2005, 12:48 AM
There was just a post somewhere about this, I hear NGK are the best to use autolites will take more abuse than NGK which means if you toast an autolite then chances are you hurt the pistons too. I will see if I can find the post
Monty Mikho
08-09-2005, 12:54 AM
Yeah the NGK's is which I like best. Hopefully 85 will find the post...
85Camaro
08-09-2005, 01:08 AM
This is from another Board (Evilb1 knows this site well) it's a all mopar board but there is a lot of good tech info to be found there too. A guy by the name of Monte smith posted this.....
"The .073 jet is an industry standard. Nitrous fuel enrichment is measured in lbs/per hour of fuel, not pressure. Pressure is all relative to the amount of fuel added. The reason the .073 jet is suggested, is because as I said, it is an industry standard. If you call me and say you have a (insert jet number here) flowing at 6lbs, through a .073 jet, I know roughly the lbs/per hour of fuel you are flowing. And at 950 lbs, we also know what the nitrous jets flow roughly, so based on these two figures, you get the nitrous to fuel ratio. You should NEVER flow with the fuel jet that you are running through your plate. It will most always be DEAD RICH and this hurts parts just as bad as lean. Your flow gauge should remain a constant, that you can depend on and the one size jet, gives you that......On the plug reading tips from Wes, the only thing I would add, is that you should NEVER see a blue line on the electrode if you are running an NGK plug. If you see heat on the strap, you have too much timing. The strap on an NGK, will take on a red/gold crusty appearance when dead on. NGK plugs are highly suggested for nitrous use. They are by far the easiest to read. Do not use AutoLites. They are indestuctible. If you burn an AutoLite plug, rest assured the piston under it is also."
Here is a link to the whole post.
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Racer&Number=1873951&Searchpage=1&Main=1868325&Words=+Monte_Smith&topic=&Search=true#Post1873951
Monty Mikho
08-09-2005, 01:23 AM
I agree with alomst all of it but the red/gold crusty color. NGK plugs have a cadnium coating on them. When the coating is just flaking is when the tune-up is on the money. A red/goldish crusty color means some oil got into the chamber and boiled the cadnium coating off. Not a very good sign...
85Camaro
08-09-2005, 01:36 AM
Good to know, we are running NGK
Monte do you change your plugs every pass?
Monty Mikho
08-09-2005, 01:50 AM
Only to save sample plugs for further evaluation or when Im making a tuning hit.. Otherwise I run them till they burn.. :-D I also save all the old sample plugs to fire up the motor after rebuilds or after the tuning hits are made..
ts racer
08-09-2005, 12:59 PM
have you had any luck with autolites?
85Camaro
08-09-2005, 01:45 PM
None, killed 2 sets of pistons with autolites, and the plugs were fine in the second set didn't know it untill it was smoking. It's cheaper to buy plugs than pistons.
Anybody need some JE ash tray got a bunch of them!!!!!
ts racer
08-09-2005, 04:23 PM
how about champions?
Monty Mikho
08-09-2005, 07:49 PM
I used Autolites and really never had a problem with them. They are harder to read though. Champions and nitrous I could never figure out. I always burned them suckers... NGK is probably the best bet. You will not net too much in ET trying to find the perfect sparkplug. I just go with whatever is easiest to read and lasts in the motor.
ts racer
08-10-2005, 12:10 AM
does ngk make a cut back strap plug?or what ngk plug do you guys run.we always ran a autolite ar3933 or 34
Monty Mikho
08-10-2005, 01:11 AM
I believe they do. But to be honest there isn't anything gained with a cut back plug..
ts racer
08-10-2005, 01:25 AM
thanks
FLYIN4D
08-21-2005, 05:57 PM
LOL! Pretty much everything I've learned so far has come from Monty Mikho. The plug reading info has become a valuable tool!
Wes
85Camaro
08-22-2005, 12:21 PM
LOL! Pretty much everything I've learned so far has come from Monty Mikho. The plug reading info has become a valuable tool!
Wes
:shock: ... you caught me stealing info from the Mopar guys!!!!!!
FLYIN4D
08-23-2005, 11:33 AM
Not at all. The info I posted came directly from Monty Mikho (regarding the reading of the plugs/pics)......came straight from this site. I mentioned in one of the posts on Moparts. You have come to the right place cause Monty KNOWS his shit and has helped me on several ocassions. The info you get is correct and not some guess that people make often times. One of the best tools to use is ask questions from guys that are going fast and not killing parts. So far its been of great benefit to me, plus he's a cool guy to rap to.
Wes
Monty Mikho
08-23-2005, 08:20 PM
:oops:
85Camaro
08-24-2005, 09:50 AM
Yea sorry to inform you Monte but you and Wes are both Nice Guys, :-D
It's hard to find guys who are willing to share good info and help another racer out.
Jim Monson too I can't leave him out, another helpful person
Alright that's all the Nice Chit I have to say
purple66bu
08-24-2005, 05:18 PM
whats a ngk equvalant to autolite 3932
TRICK_5_0
08-31-2005, 08:11 PM
Dont use the NGK Iridiums, I melted the strap on one, no big deal, till the insulator fell off and fused into my piston! And I heard they fall apart by a few people.
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