Isky Red Zones in stock

[Louie L]

Anyone of the vendors(Chris U- Robert 1320)have a new set of ISKY Red Zones in stock for a SBC/Dart non offset lifters? I believe the part number is 272 RH? Thanks

[Tom McDunnah]

I bet Joe @ Lukovich Racing has them at a great price

[steel town]

Hey Louie do you like those lifters ? I've always ran crower lifters and had really good luck with them .Just kinda curious thats all I've heard talk about them and wanted to hear what you had to say .Sorry if I hijacked your thread .

[joesmithz28]

Just talked to Louis and got him a set of Crower SD Hippo lifters. We've actually had some issues with the Red Zone lifters in a couple of our higher end BBC motors. We've discussed the issues with Mr. Iskedarian himself and neither can come to a conclusion as to what caused the failures(cracked the lifter body itself). In either case, we haven't had a single crower lifter failure in many years, so that's what we're stickin with. I still put the Isky's a close 2nd.

[Chris Uratchko]

It's a crap shoot in my opinion, for any brand. Seen them all fail with all different builders, and engine types.

In my own engine I ran Comp 904's at 9800 rpm and 1200 pounds of spring and forced myself to throw them away after a second season......... still good, found a crack at the retention clip in one lifter. Now if you ask an 'expert' I should not have been runnin that lifter.

Which leads me to believe much comes down to valve control.

[427]

We see the same thing on lifters, some last longer than others for sure. The Crower with the hippo oiling is the only lifter besides a Jesel that will let me sleep in a 24 hours of Daytona engine. They have both lived quite well. On the Comp's, I would agree with your experts, nice lifter for the price but it won't have a long service life.

Kurt

[joesmithz28]

It's a crap shoot in my opinion, for any brand. Seen them all fail with all different builders, and engine types.

In my own engine I ran Comp 904's at 9800 rpm and 1200 pounds of spring and forced myself to throw them away after a second season......... still good, found a crack at the retention clip in one lifter. Now if you ask an 'expert' I should not have been runnin that lifter.

Which leads me to believe much comes down to valve control.

Agreed Chris. Although you're a braver man than I to even try those comps in a motor like yours.

As for Jesel lifters, how bout you ask Monty his opinion about Jesel lifters???:smt072

[steel town]

Oh crap I don't even want to make a statment about how old my lifters are I think I'd be put infront of a firing squad just had too many years I had to run without a budget and lots of luck .

[Zeke1]

I think I have you all beat I have run Jesel for the last 3 years and I got them USED :rolleyes:

[steel town]

Zeke trust me when I say thats nothing .I mean it when i said there where many years without a budget .although you didn't state how used yours were .

[Rick_R]

It's a crap shoot in my opinion ...........Which leads me to believe much comes down to valve control.
A good cam designer can help the valve train by leaps and bounds, take 2 cams with the same lift and duration from different designers, 1 can beat the valve train to death in one pass while the other can do much less damage. in all in the lobe.

[Zeke1]

Zeke trust me when I say thats nothing .I mean it when i said there where many years without a budget .although you didn't state how used yours were .

They came out of a circle track engine :rolleyes: thats about 10 years of drag racing :oops:

[joesmithz28]

You guys are nutballs! My shit would come apart if I even thought of such things. :smt073

[steel town]

It's not what I like to practice just what I had to do .

[Ed-vancedEngines]

I used to use the Crower Hippo Cut-Aways on anthing serious. I had a few issues in times past with Isky, so I won't go there.

Over a year ago, I needed some .904 Crower Hippo and could not get any from anyone. No one I called had them in stock, Different engine builders who had also used them were forced to seek something else, or to waiit forever. Crower told me if I paid upfront I would be able to get them in 2 weeks. Most everyone else I talked with also told me they expected them in in appx one to two weeks. Reher Morrison told me that they had also been hearing that about one to two weeks, but had over a 1100 sets on order already for over two months, and had to go with a different lifter to get orders done.

A buddy of mine and another builder told me about a new lifter he had just started using several months before, and they were working great with serious springs and lifts in his Outlaw 10.5 cars he did. I decided to try them. When I received those, I was very impressed with the quality of workmanship and machine work on them. I was also told they are rebuildable. First set I bought went on an engine with .933 lift and 460# seat and well over 1200# open pressures. Engine is still runing and should be coming back for a freshen in the next few months.

I like the quality of workmanship better.
Cost is lower than Crower Hippo or Isky Red-Zone.
Rebuildable.
No problems so far with 7 sets running in serious engines.

I can not name the brand or the supplier because he will not talk with or do business with anyone except engine shops. He also cuts some mean cams too.

If any of you builders want more info send me email and I will give you phone number. I am getting ready to order another set of the .842 for over 1,000 # open engine soon.

All of the Comp Cams, Crane, Manley, etc lifters are considerably less cost than the Crower Hippo, Isky Red-Zone, and higher tech stuff from Jesel and LSM that require expensive machine work too.

Ed

[Chris Uratchko]

Agreed Chris. Although you're a braver man than I to even try those comps in a motor like yours.

As for Jesel lifters, how bout you ask Monty his opinion about Jesel lifters???:smt072

LOL I'm small money!! Can't afford Steak on a chef-boy-R-D-income!!

Heck we ran them in Kemps engine last year too... no issues. Aside from the Valve Control the .904's have a bigger bearing much more durable that the std. comps... But I figure we better quit while we're ahead.

[joesmithz28]

Hehe, don't tempt fate! It likes to bite.

Hey Ed, can you PM me that info?

[steel town]

LOL I'm small money!! Can't afford Steak on a chef-boy-R-D-income!!

Heck we ran them in Kemps engine last year too... no issues. Aside from the Valve Control the .904's have a bigger bearing much more durable that the std. comps... But I figure we better quit while we're ahead.

Hey Chris I'll trade ya for Kraft Dinner .:smt110

[Ed-vancedEngines]

Chris, You and Joe ought to get with me for info about a great lifter at a decent price that will hold anything the CRower of same size roller will and maybe more. Same applies to all you other builders too. My supplier will only sell to engine shops though. The rest of you could call or write me to sell though. lol.

Ed

[cps57]

Ed , Please pm me the the phone # of the lifter supplier also your # if you dont mind.
Thanks

[gary m]

hi, if you could pm me that info also i would appreciate it. thanks