Correct burn out?

[90lxcoupe]

I usually get 'em to just start smoking & come out of the box & lift. No dry hop, straight to the lights. I see guys go all John Force. I see guys guys do a bunch of dry hops. Is there a best method? This is a mid 11 3200# car.

[Stroker548]

I get em smokin real good in high gear, and keep em goin until it starts to grab a little. I run the Goodyear 2556 (old pro stock tires). Probly overkill but thats how I do it.

[BossStang]

IMO John Force style burnout are cool and everyrthing , but he's got sponsors paying for his tires lol, dry hops are cool old school methods we still see today, I give it a whoomp in the water, roll out lock it up put it in 2nd do the burnout and when I let off the button floor it and let off, rev it a couple times to clear it out and then roll into the beams.

[IHI]

Tire technology has far exceeded the need to do those big john force burnouts, i've read on various tire sites that a little smoke it too much. It was'nt until i had a botched burnout years ago that i found out exactly what they were talking about. Just one of those weird moments, got enough spin to clean them and that was it, so in my mind i was like, crap, i just lost. Lights came down, car left like a bastard and was the best 60' of the year:rolleyes: backed it up with the remaining 4 rounds to the final and have been trying for small burnout's ever since.

i've never understood the dryhops, but i guess like anything else, whatever works for ya, that's what ya do..hard to break a pattern a person thinks works, but i can honestly say i've never seen a dry hop car go many rounds...could just be the tracks i run and the rounds i watch though, but everybody else just does their burnout and stages.

[Wheelycool]

I usually get 'em to just start smoking & come out of the box & lift. No dry hop, straight to the lights. I see guys go all John Force. I see guys guys do a bunch of dry hops. Is there a best method? This is a mid 11 3200# car.

The best method is to do what works for your combination. Generally speaking, M/T products will perform best with a mild burnout. The variable would be the track temp. Doing a big burnout on a hot track could possibly cause the tire to spin more. I would experiment with various techniques and find the one that works best for your car.

Thanks,
Carl

[outlaw68]

IMO John Force style burnout are cool and everyrthing , but he's got sponsors paying for his tires lol, dry hops are cool old school methods we still see today, I give it a whoomp in the water, roll out lock it up put it in 2nd do the burnout and when I let off the button floor it and let off, rev it a couple times to clear it out and then roll into the beams.


WHOOMP in the water= Water in the wheel tubs, which = water on the tire when you stage the car.. When you WHOOMP in the water where do you think all that water goes?? drip drip drip drip drip on top the tire.

[JeffMcKC]

Ding Ding ^^^^^^^

[Evil-1]

Watch Tim Lynch's vids his burnouts are short and sweet and it works or he wouldn't be running 6.49 @ 220+ on a 33X10.5W tire

[kris paddock]

Drive through the water and stop on the edge.
Short burnouts work for us.I think Mickey Thompsons like less heat in the tires. Try different things and see what your car likes.

[Mike Peters]

Watch Tim Lynch's vids his burnouts are short and sweet and it works or he wouldn't be running 6.49 @ 220+ on a 33X10.5W tire

Yeah, but watch Billy Glidden's burnouts and they're rather lengthy and a lot of track covered doing them. Maybe Tim should do longer burnouts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaM_3WV0OI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaM_3WV0OI)

[Pam]

I like this topic. Keep it going so that I can argue with the guys at the track when they tell me I'm doing it wrong (and they will).

[annie-b]

I always rolled thru the water, stopped just after, started my burnout, shifted into second until it grabbed, moved forward just a bit, neutral to clear out then rolled into the lights. Never did the dry hop thing, seemed to me like slamming all those parts together for nothing was a waste. Rolled into the beams, set both lights and hit the line loc.....rev.....third amber full on and let go....loved it when the front end lifted a bit and settled back down. The '67 was a high 10-low 11 car, nice ride.....almost divorced the hubby when he sold it! :-D

[Horndog]

Two things to look for:
-) make sure there is enough water down in the water box to begin with.
-) know where the water puddle stops so you have the tires just slightly on the water's edge after you roll thru it and stop. Good to have a buddy help you position the car.

Summer months, I don't burn as much due to the heat in the track. Colder days, I'll burn a little longer.

[Pam]

I just have a weird feeling I'm going to be debating the 'whoomp' in the water vs driving through the water with a bunch of hard heads...ahem...white mule...

[annie-b]

I just have a weird feeling I'm going to be debating the 'whoomp' in the water vs driving through the water with a bunch of hard heads...ahem...white mule...


The only benefit of the "whoomp" is to make sure the whole tire gets water on it....no dry spots. If the water box worker is laying a narrow patch of water, when you roll thru, not all of the tire will get water on it. The disadvantage is that you sling alot of water in the wheel well that will drip down onto the slicks as you roll up. I always tried to make sure the water box had a wide enough patch of water that I thought would cover the entire tire when I rolled thru.

[Pete Nelson]

Roll through the water is best, no whoomp, like it was posted before extra water goes some where. Short simple burnout, straight to beams turn top light on and wait. The dry hop will slow your car down(Past experince). Car never launched from the line as hard as it did with the dry hop, quiet doing it and car was awesome out of the gate.

[Horndog]

I just have a weird feeling I'm going to be debating the 'whoomp' in the water vs driving through the water with a bunch of hard heads...ahem...white mule...


This is where stopping right on the edge of the water puddle pays off but it helps having a friend position the car.

[Pam]

This is where stopping right on the edge of the water puddle pays off but it helps having a friend position the car.


That's exactly what my boyfriend says. You don't get water in the wheel wells when you do a whoomp right at the edge. The local track here doesn't have a wide enough water box to get all of the tire wet. Also, doesn't like driving the front tires in the water.

[abadwillys]

roll thru the water get into hi gear fast and keep the motor in the happy zone(just about when the hairs on your neck stand up!!) and click it off anywhere from 300 feet to the 1/8th mile marker as long as its goin straight:supz:

thats how i do it may not work for everyone but the burnout is half the fun and the fans love it!!

yeah it kills tires but o well hehe

[Horndog]

That's exactly what my boyfriend says. You don't get water in the wheel wells when you do a whoomp right at the edge. The local track here doesn't have a wide enough water box to get all of the tire wet. Also, doesn't like driving the front tires in the water.


The fronts do get wet with a drive-thru water box unless you back in but that can be a pain at some tracks.

Sounds like the water-box "attendant" isn't putting enough water down at your track. Should be enough to cover most of the circumference of the tire as it rolls thru it. What would help is to have more water at the back end of the water box.

Main thing is as long as you can fell the tires grab as you power out of the burnout, this is good. Sometimes following a dragster, I had to burn a little further out before I could feel the tires starting to grab just because they drug the water up a little further away from the water box. Chit happens..................:-D

[brookins]

i've never done the dry hop, i always thought it knocked the layer of rubber off that you just got sticky. also do you ever see any pro's do it?

[Dap]

I just put on a new set of M/T 29.5x 10.5`s on my car. Is there a special procedure to follow when using a new set for the first time?

[brobaey]

I don't know if this is true but some people have told me the dry hop takes heat out of the tire after you've just heated them up...:confused:

[01hotrod]

Don't know about taking the heat out, but it lays down that fresh hot sticky rubber before you actually put it to use.

[Aronson Motorsports]

This was addressed pretty well on 460Ford.com

Link - http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132044

[totalchaos]

dont like the dry hops either think its a waste of time

[68Bird]

I've seen 'retards' doing dry hops almost take out the starting line guy or the tree. Friggin' dummies. Dry hops are GAY!

[rs7337]

When we run 26 x 10's i never let the motor get over 4000 rpm. Get the tires spinning in low then go to high quick as I can, then let it set at 4000 or so until I can see smoke in the side mirror. Then roll thru. Anything over 4500 R's and the tires start growing. You end up with a 10" tire,but an 8" hot spot.
I won a race at Mooresville a few years back, and it was hot as all hell. We decided to do very short burnouts... People were scratchin there heads... But we went round after round.

[BossStang]

Great thread, I'll stop doing the whoomp cuz it makes sense, thanks.

here's a video {old school} where they are doing dry hops, I guss it was the fad back then and if you were cool you did them lol, I dont know what is up with that sleepy music on the vid , but it's from the late 60's and early 70's
check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnhruLK2468&feature=related

[Pam]

This was addressed pretty well on 460Ford.com

Link - http://www.460ford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132044

Thanks.

[farrigno]

When we run 26 x 10's i never let the motor get over 4000 rpm. Get the tires spinning in low then go to high quick as I can, then let it set at 4000 or so until I can see smoke in the side mirror. Then roll thru. Anything over 4500 R's and the tires start growing. You end up with a 10" tire,but an 8" hot spot.
I won a race at Mooresville a few years back, and it was hot as all hell. We decided to do very short burnouts... People were scratchin there heads... But we went round after round.bingo-very short burnouts ,like 2-3seconds short do that all the time when the track surface gets 95* or hotter...some people can't believe it.

[czaker]

the first hit is the best hit after a burn out. from the tires to the convertor and the clutches in the trans.;)