Economy Booming?

[Jimmy Biggs]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?

[Chris Uratchko]

Jimmy I hear ya but I think the middle class is dwindling down..... I see a future of low, and high income only.

[Jimmy Biggs]

No Chris....the middle class is Trickling UP :-D .....LOOK AT THE STATS

[Rod Lenz]

I believe personal wealth (what ever that may be for the indivdual) is out there for the taking. Two times in my life I've achieved what I thought was personal wealth only to piss it away, may be this time will be different, I'm doing it someone else besides myself.
In any case, I don't like to "badged" in any class. People are gonna try to run you down and catagorize you only because they don't have the nuts to get thier own. If it was easy everybody would be "rich"

[Jimmy Biggs]

Rod....your in a country that You have the opportunity to be what you want when you want.....The Government was set up to 1) Protect us from Forein invasion 2) Protect us from ourselves (law enforcement)......We have gotten so far off as a Nation with Social Entitlements that we forgot to Protect ourselves (both areas) I always hear Bashing of "Class Envy" from Liberals.....Supporting their Voter Base....Lazy Ass people that want handouts......I want to work.....if I must watch how much I make as to not be in a "Higher Tax Bracket" ....Thats just plain WRONG!!!!....The more I make the Cheaper the Tax Rate should be.....I always hear "You can Afford It" thats Bullcrap.....I'm a regular workin stiff....However the Government has me listed in the top 10%.....Drive by my house I'm in a Middle Class Neighborhood....yet I pay more in Taxes then 75% of the people living in my state

[Rod Lenz]

Don't misunderstand my post, Jimmy. I AGREE 1000% with you. And Chris, I'm not trying to slam you because you made mention of "the middle class"
I'm an acountablity guy. It's mine to get and it's Mine to lose.
I'm BLESSED to live in a country where I have the ablilty to have the attitude that I have.

[novaz]

well as a Brit for me living in the USA it is all about creating oppotunities for your self and reaping the rewards which for me are owning my own home impossible back in uk without mega $down,a new truck, a race car ,guns,classic cars,guns,women,guns,oh yeah and i love hunting which is virtually non existent now in the uk for regular guys,
Royz 8)

[Jimmy Biggs]

:-D ...Glad your hear!!!!!....Thats what America was made for.....YOU!!!!.....I'm sorry we created lazy asses :oops:

[Monty Mikho]

Economy booming? If you make 1 million a year.. go broke to make 1 dollar years... then find a job for $500,000 a year.. would you say your booming? :roll: Bill Gates had 74 billion dollars with Clinton.. he now only has 40 billion... still rich as hell but a lot poorer than he was.. Oh yeah the Bush groups took our focus off Enron and pointed it to Microsoft and Walmart... :roll:

[Jimmy Biggs]

Hey Monty....its the Lib's picken on ENRON.........How about Global Crossing????....look that up........Walmart/Microsoft.....Democrats....check it out.........Check out the GDP....AH How about 3.4% :P

[Sledgehammer]

Economy booming? If you make 1 million a year.. go broke to make 1 dollar years... then find a job for $500,000 a year.. would you say your booming? :roll: Bill Gates had 74 billion dollars with Clinton.. he now only has 40 billion... still rich as hell but a lot poorer than he was.. Oh yeah the Bush groups took our focus off Enron and pointed it to Microsoft and Walmart... :roll:
If you fought the US Gov't in a anti-trust lawsuit you would be a little poorer too. :D

[Monty Mikho]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?


I agree Jimmy.. The economy is doing awesome and will be for a long long long time!! :smt044:smt044:smt044 Bush has done an EXCELLENT JOB!!


Give credit and make sure you give blame as well..

All brought to you by the REPUBLICAN party

[Monty Mikho]

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?


Im wondering why you are not giving this administration credit!!

[Shelton_Barrs]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?

Jimmy,
Are you saying that a record number of new homes are being sold now?? If so, can you explain this to me because I dont see it....

http://www.census.gov/const/newressales.pdf

[Monty Mikho]

BTW please look at the date of this post. Republican president with the highest amount of republicans in the house... Oh how great the republican party is.. I think they should pay the 700 billion from their pockets.. not ours!!

[Shelton_Barrs]

And out of the record number of new millionaires I wonder how many of those are directly related to the high price of oil.....

[Monty Mikho]

And out of the record number of new millionaires I wonder how many of those are directly related to the high price of oil.....


Shelton Jimmy made that post back in 05... I just wanted to bring it to light when all the republicans were singing and dancing how great a republican majority can make this country. Now we see the long term effects of their actions.. yet them same people blame the democrats.. Funny how that works

[Shelton_Barrs]

Shelton Jimmy made that post back in 05... I just wanted to bring it to light when all the republicans were singing and dancing how great a republican majority can make this country. Now we see the long term effects of their actions.. yet them same people blame the democrats.. Funny how that works

I'm sorry, I didn't catch the date.....

[Rkfdspeed]

No Chris....the middle class is Trickling UP :-D .....LOOK AT THE STATS

Ha Ha Ha..I like this one:smt021

[Monty Mikho]

I'm sorry, I didn't catch the date.....

That's OK.. Jimmy will miss this post all together Im guessing.. But Im sure he will see it..

[Monty Mikho]

Ha Ha Ha..I like this one:smt021

There are many many many more.. This is when I was fighting a fight by myself.. Yet they are not ready to come forward and admit they were wrong... hehehehehehehe I must have a crystal ball..

[Monty Mikho]

I guess I was anti-american back then to see the obvious eh?

[Rkfdspeed]

:-D ...Glad your hear!!!!!....Thats what America was made for.....YOU!!!!.....I'm sorry we created lazy asses :oops:

Do you work for the McCain campaign?

"a nation of whiners"..was that your quote?

[Rkfdspeed]

Oh it just dose'nt seem fair that JB was reading the Bush cue-cards in 2005.

[Monty Mikho]

Oh it just dose'nt seem fair that JB was reading the Bush cue-cards in 2005.


Dont worry.. in 3 years we can laugh at BJ, Mule, McRoy and JB... what fun that will be... hehehhehehehe

[Mark Walter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHj8-HSi5AA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHj8-HSi5AA)

[Rkfdspeed]

There are many many many more.. This is when I was fighting a fight by myself.. Yet they are not ready to come forward and admit they were wrong... hehehehehehehe I must have a crystal ball..

:-D:-D:-D Monty:-Rock's

[64Post]

Check out the GDP....AH How about 3.4% :P

Ex-mil spending, Ex-rebate checks, Ex-inflated export numbers , and we're in a recession. It's all about cooking the books with Bush. He said there will be no technical recession on his watch and, damn it, there won't be. Every other economic indicator is down except for GDP.

Wait for Q3 numbers to come out. Mil spending will be the only thing propping things up.

[Monty Mikho]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHj8-HSi5AA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHj8-HSi5AA)


I seen the Fox News logo and shut it off. Im guessing they will blame the democrats? Not that Fox is bias with their news

[Monty Mikho]

Mil spending will be the only thing propping things up.

:smt118:smt118:smt118:smt118:smt118

[Mark Walter]

You should watch it... very educational. Clinton even agrees with what's said.

[64Post]

:smt118:smt118:smt118:smt118:smt118

That's Mil(itary) spending, Monty, not MILF spending...:p

[Rkfdspeed]

[quote=64Post;1244456]Ex-mil spending, Ex-rebate checks, Ex-inflated export numbers , and we're in a recession. It's all about cooking the books with Bush. He said there will be no technical recession on his watch and, damn it, there won't be. Every other economic indicator is down except for GDP.

Wait for Q3 numbers to come out. Mil spending will be the only thing propping things up.[/quote

Bush blew the wad building a false economy Did no one else have an uneasy feeling 6 years ago....cheap car loans..cheap house loans..cheap home equity lonas...credit cards for kids...?

[Monty Mikho]

That's Mil(itary) spending, Monty, not MILF spending...:p


I know that.. and thanks for everyones contributions.. :p:p:p:p

[goofus is cool]

Economy booming? If you make 1 million a year.. go broke to make 1 dollar years... then find a job for $500,000 a year.. would you say your booming? :roll: Bill Gates had 74 billion dollars with Clinton.. he now only has 40 billion... still rich as hell but a lot poorer than he was.. Oh yeah the Bush groups took our focus off Enron and pointed it to Microsoft and Walmart... :roll:
Maybe Bill Gates losing all that money had something to do with dogshit Windows Vista he plowed so much money into...you know, the operating system they are now doing damage control commercials on.

[64Post]

Another data source for those interested. Subscription is required for deeper data.

http://www.shadowstats.com/

Click on "alternate data"...

Value of the dollar since 2002 is interesting, as is unemployment.

[64Post]

Final Q2 GDP numbers:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/second-quarter-gdp-growth-revised-28/story.aspx?guid=%7B251CFB34%2D799D%2D4658%2DA683%2 DDF3136AFA046%7D

[Monty Mikho]

No one should fear!! The stimulus checks should be out soon (if they have not already) and that will recover the economy!! Just make sure you invest that $600 in a place that will give you 300% in return so you can afford your tax raise next year.

[Rkfdspeed]

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp99/rkfdspeed/Spend_spend.jpg

[1FastMopar]

WOW!!! This is a blast from the past!! I'm gonna bet Jimmy is hiding under a fuckin' rock when it comes to this thread!

I have been saying since around '04 that this is a false economy, everyone was too busy spending all that easy money, now we get to bail out those stupid fuckers!

[64Post]

WOW!!! This is a blast from the past!! I'm gonna bet Jimmy is hiding under a fuckin' rock when it comes to this thread!

I have been saying since around '04 that this is a false economy, everyone was too busy spending all that easy money, now we get to bail out those stupid fuckers!

Shalom, Elvis. :smt082

Wasn't it W himself that said after 9/11 to keep spending money, to not let the terrorists win? Well, we spent money alright, even money we didn't have. It has worked out pretty good so far. :roll:

[Horndog]

Shalom, Elvis. :smt082

Wasn't it W himself that said after 9/11 to keep spending money, to not let the terrorists win? Well, we spent money alright, even money we didn't have. It has worked out pretty good so far. :roll:


Yep, decider wanted to hear that plastic hitting the cash registers. "We'll sure show them terrorists they can't bankrupt the United States of America".

....................................mission accomplished.



Oh yeah - gov't didn't have any money either on Sept 10, 2001, Sept 11, 2001 and Sept 12, 2001 and none every day after that date.

[Rkfdspeed]

[quote=Horndog;1247723]Yep, decider wanted to hear that plastic hitting the cash registers. "We'll sure show them terrorists they can't bankrupt the United States of America".

....................................mission accomplished.

We got plenty of money in Washington. What we need is more priority." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 2, 2008

[Hammer59]

Where's jimmys thoughts on this now?:smt102

[sandman658]

Where is JIMBO??

Carl..put out a APB on Mr Biggs. lmao

[JoDon]

If you run a business and need a loan, generally you have to submit a detailed business plan to get the money. If you're a politician, you submit campaign "promises" to the voters ... but no politician, or party, is required to submit a business plan to the voters (sure, economists will give their opinion on the viability of the promises, but there is no detailed plan). If they don't have a plan, how can they run the country?

[Horndog]

If you run a business and need a loan, generally you have to submit a detailed business plan to get the money. If you're a politician, you submit campaign "promises" to the voters ... but no politician, or party, is required to submit a business plan to the voters (sure, economists will give their opinion on the viability of the promises, but there is no detailed plan). If they don't have a plan, how can they run the country?


They can't. We see it play out time and time again that politicians are only good at running one thing. Taking money and running it swiftly to deposit into their Swiss bank accounts.

[1FastMopar]

So, its been a day since this thread was dug up from history, where the fuck is JB to give us his new twist on the thread that he started??? Seems like its as I said it would be, he is nowhere to be found!!:butthead:

[64Post]

Looks like the data coming in next week might be interesting...

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/economic-preview-weakness-data-just/story.aspx?guid=%7BEC801A3E%2DBB00%2D4914%2DB846%2 DC8DC032F47B8%7D&dist=hplatest

[Hammer59]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?


:smt082:smt082:smt082:smt100 JB must be the drive by media he always talks about.:smt082

[Hammer59]

So, its been a day since this thread was dug up from history, where the fuck is JB to give us his new twist on the thread that he started??? Seems like its as I said it would be, he is nowhere to be found!!:butthead:

He's in college now learning a new profession in economics so he can find a job.:smt082 times must be getting tough for ole JB.:smt082

[sandman658]

He is to busy on google looking for LIBERAL non-news.:smt110

[Hammer59]

Record Number of New job loses
*Record Number of New Houses under forclosure
Record Number of Used Houses not sold
Record Number deficit spending
Record Number fuel prices
Record Number of banks going under
Record Number of Golden parachutes for CEO's:smt082

[sandman658]

Jimbo.
Do Not Jump!!!
We Still luv You!!
Get Down from that ledge!

[8URZ28]

Record Number of New job loses
*Record Number of New Houses under forclosure
Record Number of Used Houses not sold
Record Number deficit spending
Record Number fuel prices
Record Number of banks going under
Record Number of Golden parachutes for CEO's:smt082


We lost 30 more on Fri. I've made it through the first 3 "cleanings", but getting a little nervous.:(

[64Post]

Text of the link I posted in #49...

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. economy is headed into rough seas and important economic indicators to be released in the next five days will show weakness, but the data are expected to be just the tips of the icebergs of the sharp slowdown lurking just out of sight, economists said.
"The trend is getting weaker -- momentum is fading," said James O'Sullivan, economist at UBS in New York. But the data this week surely won't be as bad as October data, he said.
The full impact of the credit crunch will be felt in the October data, O'Sullivan added.

The push by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson for government rescue of the financial sector has captivated headlines and obscured "consistently deteriorating economic data," said Richard Moody chief economist at Mission Residential Research.

The first iceberg of September data is the Institute of Supply Management survey of manufacturers released on Wednesday at 10 a.m. EDT.
The survey is widely regarded as an excellent gauge of business sentiment and conditions.

So far this year, the ISM report has been holding up fairly well. The index has been averaging just below 50, not so bad given all the talk of recession.
For September, the consensus forecast of Wall Street economists is for the index to slip to 49.8 in September from 49.9 in August. Hints of weakness came in several of the regional manufacturing surveys released earlier this month.

Joel Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors, said the ISM factory index is stable in part because the worst of the summer auto plant downsizings are now over.
The second iceberg will be the unemployment report on Friday. It is the one of the best and broadest gauges of current economic conditions.

Economists expect job losses to be the weakest so far this year. The economy has shed jobs every month this year. Economists expect job losses to accelerate in September to 85,000, just a bit worse than 84,000 jobs lost in August.

[tmac]

BTW please look at the date of this post. Republican president with the highest amount of republicans in the house... Oh how great the republican party is.. I think they should pay the 700 billion from their pockets.. not ours!!
The money in their pockets is ours.The only way to make it theirs would be to change the tax code.Eliminate income tax and replace with a cosumption tax.It's by far the fairest tax,it promotes saving and makes everybody pay from the dope dealer,illegal immigrant,politician right down to the hard working middle class who have been picking up the tab for too long.You control them when you control your money and that's why it will never happen.

[tmac]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?
The begining of the end profiteering off of out of control spending.

[Hammer59]

We lost 30 more on Fri. I've made it through the first 3 "cleanings", but getting a little nervous.:(

We have laid off 47 people in the last 4 months.

[Rkfdspeed]

So, its been a day since this thread was dug up from history, where the fuck is JB to give us his new twist on the thread that he started??? Seems like its as I said it would be, he is nowhere to be found!!:butthead:

He has a "truth" hangover...just like Bush he will have to deal with the truth sooner than later...

[10.5 Dave]

middle class who have been picking up the tab for too long.
I agree with you on the consumption tax but you're wrong in a HUGE way on the middle class footing the bill.

The vast majority of income taxes are collected from people making over 100 grand a yr.

There was a sticky at the top of this page awhile ago but it's gone now.

On a side note I've made more money in the last 8 yrs then I ever have in my life.

[Hammer59]

I agree with you on the consumption tax but you're wrong in a HUGE way on the middle class footing the bill.

The vast majority of income taxes are collected from people making over 100 grand a yr.

There was a sticky at the top of this page awhile ago but it's gone now.

On a side note I've made more money in the last 8 yrs then I ever have in my life.

Who's gonna pick up the tab on this bailout?

[Rkfdspeed]

I agree with you on the consumption tax but you're wrong in a HUGE way on the middle class footing the bill.

The vast majority of income taxes are collected from people making over 100 grand a yr.

There was a sticky at the top of this page awhile ago but it's gone now.

On a side note I've made more money in the last 8 yrs then I ever have in my life.

So ??? proportionally you are more tax burdened than say a teacher that makes $30,000 a year...

[10.5 Dave]

So ??? proportionally you are more tax burdened than say a teacher that makes $30,000 a year...

Where do teachers make 30k a yr????????:confused:Around here a 10 yr teacher is 80k+ with gravy benefits.They dont pay SS tax either.On a percentage basis,ya I'm more burdened then someone that makes 30k.The only fair way to do it is make everyone pay the same percentage.

It's not my fault they dont take advantage of the unlimited opportunities in America.A career change may be in order if they're not happy with their income.Dont stick it to me because I'm more motivated then them.
You Liberals are the greediest people on earth.

Hammer as far as the bailout goes the majority of people have no idea how it is going to work.I dont feel like explaining or debating about it today.

[bigpoppapreston]

I can't anymore of this prosperity.

Just think if Clinton was in office, there would be talks of recession and not a DEPRESSION!!!!

Hey guys show a little mercy for the neocons as they are in crisis mode. I heard that there is a suicide watch out on them! :-~hang

[Mark O'Neal]

Economy booming? If you make 1 million a year.. go broke to make 1 dollar years... then find a job for $500,000 a year.. would you say your booming? :roll: Bill Gates had 74 billion dollars with Clinton.. he now only has 40 billion... still rich as hell but a lot poorer than he was.. Oh yeah the Bush groups took our focus off Enron and pointed it to Microsoft and Walmart... :roll:


only monte would call 40 billion "poorer".......:-D

[Jeremy J]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?

Got some links and stats to back this up? Everything I've been reading contradicts these statements. Especially local.

[Shelton_Barrs]

Got some links and stats to back this up? Everything I've been reading contradicts these statements. Especially local.

Monty pulled this thread back up from earlier 2005....

[Jeremy J]

Monty pulled this thread back up from earlier 2005....


That's why I didn't recognize the title, lol.

[Rkfdspeed]

Monty pulled this thread back up from earlier 2005....

...and we have'nt seen Jimmy Biggs in this thread since...the "Truth hangover" must just be killing him......:smt082:smt082:smt082

[64Post]

Just think if Clinton was in office, there would be talks of recession and not a DEPRESSION!!!!



I gotta disagree. Clinton pushed the rock down the slippery slope with NAFTA and Favored Nation status with China. And, while W signed the agreement to let China into the WTO in Sept. 01, Clinton laid the ground work for it to happen.

[bigpoppapreston]

Correction my friend, while Clinton signed NAFTA, Reagan/Bush designed, orchastrated brokered the deal and had a veto proof majority even if Clinton had threatened to veto.

That's something that the neocons fail to acknowledge.

[Jeremy J]

I gotta disagree. Clinton pushed the rock down the slippery slope with NAFTA and Favored Nation status with China. And, while W signed the agreement to let China into the WTO in Sept. 01, Clinton laid the ground work for it to happen.

How long has the Bush administration had to correct this? If it was so risky why wasn't anything done about it? A Republican's motto.... "When in doubt, blame it on Clinton." Personally, I think it's Taft's fault. He had his chance to get Bin Laden's great grandparents. If his grandparents had been caught, the Bush family never would have been doing oil business with the Bin Laden family 80 years ago.

[bigpoppapreston]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Free_Trade_Agreements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Free_Trade_Agreements)



.

[Chevelle Rob]

Correction my friend, while Clinton signed NAFTA, Reagan/Bush designed, orchastrated brokered the deal and had a veto proof majority even if Clinton had threatened to veto.

That's something that the neocons fail to acknowledge.

Clinton wanted the free trade agreement.

trade agreemets are part of the BIG PICTURE. I don't think we will be creating manufacturing jobs here anytime soon.

[bigpoppapreston]

However it was Reagan/Bush that actually designed and planned for NAFTA and again it would've passed with a veto proof majority!!!!!

[64Post]

Correction my friend, while Clinton signed NAFTA, Reagan/Bush designed, orchastrated brokered the deal and had a veto proof majority even if Clinton had threatened to veto.

That's something that the neocons fail to acknowledge.

Your Wiki link is noted.

While looking at the Senate vote, I don't see a two-thirds majority to override a veto. I also believe Clinton wanted this. I also believe there are other players calling all the shots and their plans transcend whoever is in the White House.

[Horndog]

Your Wiki link is noted.

While looking at the Senate vote, I don't see a two-thirds majority to override a veto. I also believe Clinton wanted this. I also believe there are other players calling all the shots and their plans transcend whoever is in the White House.


+1

[Rkfdspeed]

Your Wiki link is noted.

While looking at the Senate vote, I don't see a two-thirds majority to override a veto. I also believe Clinton wanted this. I also believe there are other players calling all the shots and their plans transcend whoever is in the White House.

Clinton established this with controls and stipulations..The Bush administration opened it up by ignoring any and all control provisions within the agreements...open the corporate spillways...can you smell the stench of lack of oversight and free market out of control...it's here, but to hear it from the Republican position...

The Fundamentals of the Economy are Strong!

[64Post]

I believe selling us out to the Chinese had more deleterious effects on our economy than NAFTA. But, both of them combined was a recipe for disaster.

[Rkfdspeed]

I believe selling us out to the Chinese had more deleterious effects on our economy than NAFTA. But, both of them combined was a recipe for disaster.

But it had controls...many of them just thrown out the window in the last 8 years.....

[GrahamHill]

*Record Number of New Millionairs
*Record Number of New Houses Sold
*High Number of Used Houses Sold

To get right to the point.......if Clinton/Gore were in office it would be front page News......Why doesn't the Media give any credit to this Administration?

Dave Ramsey had a guy on the other day who had an article about how the good news wasnt being reported. For starters they pointed out that the GDP has yet to shrink. They pointed out the facts you posted plus some others like last month new house hold worth had gained from last year.

[64Post]

For starters they pointed out that the GDP has yet to shrink.

IMO, the GDP is being manipulated. It's the sole technical indicator to qualify the beginning and end of a recession. I provided some interesting links earlier in this thread.

[Rkfdspeed]

IMO, the GDP is being manipulated. It's the sole technical indicator to qualify the beginning and end of a recession. I provided some interesting links earlier in this thread.

ohhh.beat me to it...GDP has become a media tool for whomever is in office....

[Rocco-A.R.E.]

How can you guys say anything bad about a guy with a resume as impressive as this one? And now he can add bankrupted an entire country just in time to dump it onto somebody elses shoulders.

George W. Bush's Resume http://z.about.com/
http://z.about.com/
http://z.about.com/ George W. Bush (Dubya)
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20500
Past Work Experience


Ran for congress and lost.
Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments in Previous Positions


Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.
Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments As President


Attacked and took over two countries.
Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References



At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)

[Bruno Johnson]

How can you guys say anything bad about a guy with a resume as impressive as this one? And now he can add bankrupted an entire country just in time to dump it onto somebody elses shoulders.

George W. Bush's Resume http://z.about.com/
http://z.about.com/
http://z.about.com/ George W. Bush (Dubya)
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, D.C. 20500
Past Work Experience


Ran for congress and lost.
Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas; company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
With father's help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments in Previous Positions


Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
Set record for most executions by any governor in American history.
Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my father's appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments As President


Attacked and took over two countries.
Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.
First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in U.S. history.
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history.
Set the record for most campaign fundraising trips than any other president in U.S. history.
In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in U.S. history.
Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.
Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in U.S. history.
Presided over the biggest energy crises in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
Presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
Dissolved more international treaties than any president in U.S. history.
My presidency is the most secretive and unaccountable of any in U.S. history.
Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history (the 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
First president in U.S. history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in U.S. history.
First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the human rights commission.
First president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the elections monitoring board.
Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in U.S. history.
Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
Refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
First president in U.S. history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. elections).
All-time U.S. (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
My biggest lifetime campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.
First president in U.S. history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
First U.S. president to establish a secret shadow government.
Took the biggest world sympathy for the U.S. after 9/11, and in less than a year made the U.S. the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in U.S. and world history).
With a policy of 'disengagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
Fist U.S. president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
First U.S. president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the U.S. than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated U.S. law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive.'
Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
In the 18 months following the 9/11 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in U.S. history.
In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the U.S. has ever been since the Civil War.
Entered office with the strongest economy in U.S. history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References



At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available)
AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
For personal references please speak to my daddy or uncle James Baker (they can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.)



Maybe if some of the asshole posters on here would be working a little harder at their jobs / biz and less time on here knocking the president the economy and our problems would not be as bad, so much negative bullcrap on here.

[Rkfdspeed]

Rocco..I think you made Bruno upset..LMAO.....:rolleyes:
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp99/rkfdspeed/smashed-computer.jpg

[Rkfdspeed]

Thank You!

[Hammer59]

Maybe if some of the asshole posters on here would be working a little harder at their jobs / biz and less time on here knocking the president the economy and our problems would not be as bad, so much negative bullcrap on here.

Shad-dap ya old limpdick neo-con.:p

[SilverFox]

Personally, I think it's Taft's fault. He had his chance to get Bin Laden's great grandparents. If his grandparents had been caught, the Bush family never would have been doing oil business with the Bin Laden family 80 years ago.:smt082:smt082:smt082

[Hammer59]

Maybe if some of the asshole posters on here would be working a little harder at their jobs / biz and less time on here knocking the president the economy and our problems would not be as bad, so much negative bullcrap on here.

Yeah, I'm sure that would fix all the corruption.:smt044:smt044

[Ken F]

If by "BOOMING" you mean imploding, then you FINALLY got one right.

[Horndog]

If by "BOOMING" you mean imploding, then you FINALLY got one right.



LOL !!

Yep ! :smt023

[Monty Mikho]

Is it me or does BJ subscribe to the communist way of thinking?


If you speak out about the government you are Anti-American!
If the government makes the wrong decision you should still back it up!
If the economy is going to shit you should let the people who brought it to that point continue doing what they do without saying a word!
If we engage in an unjust war we should still back it up!
If you spot corruption within you should just let it slide and not say a word!
One should never say anything against the government otherwise you should move out of the country!
BJ doesn't understand what freedom and democracy is. But he seems to have communism all wrapped up.

I would die for my freedom while BJ would give up all his freedoms just to be safe. Maybe I'm wrong but I highly doubt it!!

[Mark O'Neal]

well monte...he does have a point about the negativity.

[RRRAAAYYY2]

This election has to be the most negative I have ever seen.

[Monty Mikho]

well monte...he does have a point about the negativity.


The positives usually never need to be addressed. To improve on anything one should focus on the negatives then later pat themselves on the back when they are addressed. No need to credit the government for anything else than the present state the country is in. If you feel that is negativity rather than focusing on improvements then you my friend should apply for a job in Washington.

[Monty Mikho]

well monte...he does have a point about the negativity.


BTW its pretty hard to stay positive when dealing with a government everyone knows is corrupt. But if one is to talk about it they are no longer American? :confused::confused::confused:

[Rkfdspeed]

This election has to be the most negative I have ever seen.

If being informed and concerned about the disastrous state of our economy and the abundance of ineptitude at the highest levels of our Government...count me as negative.:smt083

[Carl Baldwin]

well monte...he does have a point about the negativity.
If the negativity is the truth there is nothing wrong addressing it.

[RRRAAAYYY2]

To me the negativity is the amount of lying BS coming from both sides. Because of you guys I actually had to watch the debate just so I knew what the the truth was (or my version anyway). I have never seen so much twisting of fact in my life.

[Carl Baldwin]

I have never seen so much twisting of fact in my life.
Stink around it will only get better.;)

[George Klass]

Broono has no problem with negativity, provided it is directed at those he disapprove of.

Just another hipocrite.

[Ken F]

Hey Monty - you weren't sky diving this past Saturday were you?

[Monty Mikho]

Hey Monty - you weren't sky diving this past Saturday were you?


No.. picking up my boat... Im going fishing :p:p:p

[Mark O'Neal]

This election has to be the most negative I have ever seen.

not even close.......

[Mark O'Neal]

The positives usually never need to be addressed. To improve on anything one should focus on the negatives then later pat themselves on the back when they are addressed. No need to credit the government for anything else than the present state the country is in. If you feel that is negativity rather than focusing on improvements then you my friend should apply for a job in Washington.

it is too hard to type with one hand to argue with you.

but the opposite of the mania of the last few years is the current depression.

washington has been corrupt from day one, business has been corrupt from day one, and the consumer has been corrupt from day one.

so what?


the fact is that the credit markets are frozen because banks don't want to lend money that they may need to remain solvent. they are actually well capitalized....

you can yak all you want, that is the problem we need to solve.

my arm hurts...fuck you very much..:-D

[Hammer59]

it is too hard to type with one hand to argue with you.

but the opposite of the mania of the last few years is the current depression.

washington has been corrupt from day one, business has been corrupt from day one, and the consumer has been corrupt from day one.

so what?




the fact is that the credit markets are frozen because banks don't want to lend money that they may need to remain solvent. they are actually well capitalized....

you can yak all you want, that is the problem we need to solve.

my arm hurts...fuck you very much..:-D

The country needs a hard crash so we can weed out the crooks and start on a real rebuilding effort instead of smoke an mirrors B.S. We will be much better off in the long run, just make sure you have a two year supply of food like Mormons do.:p

[RRRAAAYYY2]

not even close.......
Ok, maybe the worst I paid attention too, LOL.

[UnderPressure]

it is too hard to type with one hand to argue with you.

but the opposite of the mania of the last few years is the current depression.

washington has been corrupt from day one, business has been corrupt from day one, and the consumer has been corrupt from day one.

so what?


the fact is that the credit markets are frozen because banks don't want to lend money that they may need to remain solvent. they are actually well capitalized....

you can yak all you want, that is the problem we need to solve.

my arm hurts...fuck you very much..:-D

Jack off with the other hand, hercules! ;)

[vrtical]

as of lunch time. IMPLODING!!!!

[Shelton_Barrs]

Ok, maybe the worst I paid attention too, LOL.

think that is the case....

[taxman]

This election has to be the most negative I have ever seen.

You haven't seen much then. They said Andy Jackson's wife was a prostitute and he got elected.

[Mark O'Neal]

Jack off with the other hand, hercules! ;)


i tried.



but the guilt...........

[Rkfdspeed]

as of lunch time. IMPLODING!!!!

pretty soon America will look like a good investment..and Wall Street can quit developing China with American 401K's.....:p

[vrtical]

I just wanna know when the Chinese flag is raised at the white house.

[Monty Mikho]

it is too hard to type with one hand to argue with you.

but the opposite of the mania of the last few years is the current depression.

washington has been corrupt from day one, business has been corrupt from day one, and the consumer has been corrupt from day one.

so what?


the fact is that the credit markets are frozen because banks don't want to lend money that they may need to remain solvent. they are actually well capitalized....

you can yak all you want, that is the problem we need to solve.

my arm hurts...fuck you very much..:-D

Talk about a negative post.

Why are you typing with one hand? Hope everything is OK dude!!

Argue?? I didn't think we were arguing. Only simple minded people argue differences in opinion.

[N2Ojunkie]

Where do teachers make 30k a yr????????:confused:Around here a 10 yr teacher is 80k+ with gravy benefits.They dont pay SS tax either.On a percentage basis,ya I'm more burdened then someone that makes 30k.The only fair way to do it is make everyone pay the same percentage.

It's not my fault they dont take advantage of the unlimited opportunities in America.A career change may be in order if they're not happy with their income.Dont stick it to me because I'm more motivated then them.
You Liberals are the greediest people on earth.

Hammer as far as the bailout goes the majority of people have no idea how it is going to work.I dont feel like explaining or debating about it today.Where in the phuck are these teaching jobs that pay 80k after 10 years? I know several career teachers that would love to apply for them.

[Monty Mikho]

Where in the phuck are these teaching jobs that pay 80k after 10 years? I know several career teachers that would love to apply for them.

LOL I doubt his statement is accurate. In Michigan it surely isn't true unless he is using the ever so useful government calculator. :p:p

[N2Ojunkie]

LOL I doubt his statement is accurate. In Michigan it surely isn't true unless he is using the ever so useful government calculator. :p:p
I know it's a bullshit statement. There are several teachers in my family that live all over the state. Plus a few of my old high school friends are teachers as well. I know how much they make.

[sandman658]

In NJ, public school teachers make that.
I'm not sure on the years though

[N2Ojunkie]

Possibly.


But Dave lives in Ohio just like I do. And I know that number is bullshit.

[tmac]

I agree with you on the consumption tax but you're wrong in a HUGE way on the middle class footing the bill.

The vast majority of income taxes are collected from people making over 100 grand a yr.

There was a sticky at the top of this page awhile ago but it's gone now.

On a side note I've made more money in the last 8 yrs then I ever have in my life.
On long Island 100 grand is middle class.Why do you think people are leaving here in droves,although the housing slump stopped that to a degree.The taxes here are insane,along with electric ect.1800 sq ft ranch house 1/2 acre middle class area 10,200.00 a year.

[Mobydidit]

Where in the phuck are these teaching jobs that pay 80k after 10 years? I know several career teachers that would love to apply for them.

They make close to that in PA. Starting salary starts at 38,000 plus they can collect unemployment over summer vacation.