Fogger Nozzles?

[MCas7]

I am getting some information about a particular type of fogger nozzle and I"m wondering if any of you guys have had any bad experiences with any particular type of nozzle over another.

In other words, which nozzles do you guys use in your fogger setups and are there any horror stories about any types of nozzles that I should know about?

Thanks.

[Jim Monson]

I always used the NOS brand stuff set up by Applied Nitrous Technology. Never had a complaint.

[YellowBU]

I use the Cold Fusion with no problem.

[Nitrousnova]

Nitrous Express, Shark Nozzles

[MCas7]

Ok, for those of you that use the NOS nozzles, is there a particular way they are supposed to be set up as far as the nitrous always goes in this hole and the fuel always goes in this hole? What would happen if you were to say have 2 stages where the first stage was set up like my attached picture and the second stage had the nitrous and fuel reversed? Would this cause a problem?

[Monty Mikho]

Mcas, if you are looking at other setups on cars that have them switched... Its because they are using annular nozzles. On these nozzles it is believed and almost proven to have a better spray pattern this way. But the picture you have above is not this type of nozzle although they would look alike if plumbed in a manifold because of their stainless bodies.. Would it present a problem if you switched them on that nozzle you have posted? Not sure.. But I would not use my money to test that out on..

[Steidle]

Did you run the car like that? If So what was the A/F ratio?

[MCas7]

Mcas, if you are looking at other setups on cars that have them switched... Its because they are using annular nozzles. On these nozzles it is believed and almost proven to have a better spray pattern this way. But the picture you have above is not this type of nozzle although they would look alike if plumbed in a manifold because of their stainless bodies.. Would it present a problem if you switched them on that nozzle you have posted? Not sure.. But I would not use my money to test that out on..

Monty,

Sorry for the confusion, but the nozzle that I posted was not the one we are using. We are using the black ones. I simply posted that picture to give you an idea of what I was talking about.
Any idea if the black ones are designed to be used either way or not?

[MCas7]

Did you run the car like that? If So what was the A/F ratio?

We ran the car a couple of times the way it is set up right now and the first pass it went 169 mph. The second pass was a different story though. It kind of fell on its face about the 330' mark. Not sure why that was, but I had heard some stories about those nozzles, so I wanted to check to make sure that it wasn't the problem.

I don't have any A/F numbers yet. We are thinking about getting the thing dynoed very soon though. I'm sure those numbers would help us out a lot.

[Monty Mikho]

The black ones are more than likely a B style NOS nozzle.. You do not want to switch them.

[TYDO]

I am pretty sure the B nozzles are plumbed backwards from the stainless(A?) nozzles.It should say which one is fuel/NOS on both.

[Monty Mikho]

I am pretty sure the B nozzles are plumbed backwards from the stainless(A?) nozzles.It should say which one is fuel/NOS on both.

The A nozzle is black in color like the B nozzle. The tips are different.. Also the nitrous tube within are a different design. I believe CAS is asking if he should put a fuel on the nitrous side (marked nitrous) and nitrous on the fuel side (marked fuel).. The only nozzle I am aware of that you do this to is the Annular nozzle..

[FLYIN4D]

Use the NOS stainless 90* soft plume or bottom exit annular nozzles.

Alot of times, your intake can play a big part in WHICH nozzle you should run due to the complexity of your system(s) and depending its nozzle angle needed, etc. On my intake I am running TWO annular nozzles on both foggers.

Here is something that was going around a while ago in regards to those junk NOS block nozzles and I happen to have saved it for reference. It explains in detail whats going on with that nozzle design and shows illustrations as well. Click on link below for info and pics.

click on link
http://users3.ev1.net/~rallen59/NOZZLE/

[superdave]

i was told...that the "B" nozzle was good for up to about a 36 jet...

the soft plumes (ss ,90deg.) were good nozzles to use from that number up-

i've used both and i like the soft plumes...the motor seemed more alive on the soft plumes

[JAMBO]

[quote]It kind of fell on its face about the 330' mark I realize this thread is old, but after what I've been thru I have to throw in some input. I have the SS soft plume 90* nozzles that you have pictured. We have been chasing our tail for over ONE YEAR trying to get this system to work:smt097 The car would leave good and then about the 300' the thing would fall on its dam face. I cannot tell you how many people have tried to help figuring this thing out. We changed everything from Ignition systems wires, plugs, gaps up down sideways, carbs, fuel and lines , foam out of cell to anything else you could think of. I had many folks tell me that I would have to install a racepak to get more info...SURE its only money right:p Anyway...there is a happy ending, after finally trying something someone from the east coast told me to try it led us to the cause. He told us to remove the fuel rails off the motor and with the motor off (Better be LOL) hit the system and see if NOS would come out of the fuel side. It did, that led us to look into the fuel side of the nozzles. Sure enough the SS nozzles are supposed to have one of the two holes inside the fuel fitting plugged and 6 out of 8 were NOT!! Now the reason im especially pissed about this whole thing is because I was told that if you sprayed carb cleaner into the NOS side of the nozzle it was OK with the soft plume if it came out the fuel side...BULLSHIT!!! My whole point here is that if you run these soft plume nozzles you better check inside the fuel side to make sure the little plug did not fall out or were never installed. Good luck and I hope this will help some people out there...I know it would have helped my ass a long time ago!!

[mikeyfrombc]

http://texasmeltdowns.com/FOGGER.HTM

here,s some info on the bad nozzles from NOS years back.

[NOS-Nelson]

[I realize this thread is old, but after what I've been thru I have to throw in some input. I have the SS soft plume 90* nozzles that you have pictured. We have been chasing our tail for over ONE YEAR trying to get this system to work:smt097 The car would leave good and then about the 300' the thing would fall on its dam face. I cannot tell you how many people have tried to help figuring this thing out. We changed everything from Ignition systems wires, plugs, gaps up down sideways, carbs, fuel and lines , foam out of cell to anything else you could think of. I had many folks tell me that I would have to install a racepak to get more info...SURE its only money right:p Anyway...there is a happy ending, after finally trying something someone from the east coast told me to try it led us to the cause. He told us to remove the fuel rails off the motor and with the motor off (Better be LOL) hit the system and see if NOS would come out of the fuel side. It did, that led us to look into the fuel side of the nozzles. Sure enough the SS nozzles are supposed to have one of the two holes inside the fuel fitting plugged and 6 out of 8 were NOT!! Now the reason im especially pissed about this whole thing is because I was told that if you sprayed carb cleaner into the NOS side of the nozzle it was OK with the soft plume if it came out the fuel side...BULLSHIT!!! My whole point here is that if you run these soft plume nozzles you better check inside the fuel side to make sure the little plug did not fall out or were never installed. Good luck and I hope this will help some people out there...I know it would have helped my ass a long time ago!!

There was a batch of those that went out a year or so ago. Everytime I plumb a manifold I inspect them to make sure they are sealed. You can see through the fitting and see the ball. If it's hard for you to see you can shine a flashlight at the bottom and you should only see light come up one hole.

[JAMBO]

That article on the bad NOS nozzles was for the "B" nozzle with the straws. We were aware of the bad "B" nozzles but were told that it was OK for the SS soft plume to have carb spray come up the fuel fitting:rolleyes: I have a couple of questions, what can be done to ensure none of the little balls dont come out? Is it possible to silver solder them or what would you recommend. What is a realistic max HP setting you've seen with the soft plume ( I realize cam , heads etc) Its a 450" sbc with decent heads, cam etc. At this point we are "AMPED" to finally getting off the plate on to the fogger....We have been waiting for a long time for this. Thanks for your help...Just want to fly in a big motorhome!

[NOS-Nelson]

That article on the bad NOS nozzles was for the "B" nozzle with the straws. We were aware of the bad "B" nozzles but were told that it was OK for the SS soft plume to have carb spray come up the fuel fitting:rolleyes: Mike I have a couple of questions, what can be done to ensure none of the little balls dont come out? Is it possible to silver solder them or what would you recommend. What is a realistic max HP setting you've seen with the soft plume ( I realize cam , heads etc) Its a 450" sbc with decent heads, cam etc. At this point we are "AMPED" to finally getting off the plate on to the fogger....We have been waiting for a long time for this. Thanks for your help...Just want to fly in a big motorhome!

The balls are brazed into the nozzles. They won't come out. After the bad nozzles went out they let the manufacturer build the body, braze the bearing, and laser etch the logo. Since this change I am not aware of any more problems. The Soft Plume nozzle can easily flow a .048 jet. I run them consistently in the .040 - .045 range.

[JAMBO]

Cool, I'll leave them alone and just keep checking them.:supz: Thanks for your help:)

[NOS-Nelson]

Cool, I'll leave them alone and just keep checking them.:supz: Thanks for your help:)

No problem. Glad I could help out.:cool: