stripside access?

[little duece coupe]

how do you guys get it?and does it cost you?i cant get those awesome shots you guys do from the stands or behind the fence.anyone going to immokalee this weekend.i will be there on saturday trying to figure out this photo thing,lol.

thanks,jeff

[davs5.0]

i usually look for someone from the track and ask for permission. Make sure they know you want to go out there, ask where they will allow you to go and always keep an eye on the competition. If there is a track photographer, ask him if he minds and where would be a good spot to stand that doesn't get in his shots. And if there is a track photo person, make sure you inform them if you are doing this for personal use. Dont want to take away their customers. Most people I've been around don't mind you out there if you don't get in the way. I usually try to shoot over the shoulder of the track guy so I can get similar shots and I'm out of his way.

[little duece coupe]

ok thanks for the advice.

[kelly andersen]

You probably wont get trackside unless your the track photographer or work for a publication or website. And then most will want to see printed work you've done(magazine ect.) asking the track probably wont get you anywhere, they dont want people out there with no experience due to liability. We get tons of people that sneak out or lie about being with a mag or website and we usually boot them or get security on them because they are a pain in the ass getting in the way and what not. Most track photographers wont give you the time of day, theyre trying to make a living and have to deal with people shooting from the stands trying to sell pic's behind theyre back. Not trying to rain on your parade but your probably not going to get on the line unless you know somebody. Most of us that post pic's here do it for a living not for fun.

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

X 2 on what Kelly said. And no,you can't buy that kind of pass, you have to pay your dues and earn it. Start at your local track and work from there.

[davs5.0]

What these pros have said is absolutely true but asking doesn't hurt. I was at the Super Chevy Show at Norwalk this year and asked the guy running the lanes if he could find out who i could ask to get out in front of the starting line. An extremely professional and nice woman came over and asked what I wanted. I explained to her that I wanted to take some pics of my friends cars. She went right over to the security guys and made sure I had access out with the pros. Got some amazing shots and one of the drivers I went with even asked if we could take some shots after racing was done for the day. The Norwalk people were amazing and I got some once in a lifetime shots.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x132/crewchief69/IMG_0718.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x132/crewchief69/IMG_0755.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x132/crewchief69/IMG_0727.jpg

And Outlaw Photo, I believe I've chatted with you a couple times at Milan. If I'm correct you were trying out a monster lens at one of the Milan Heads Up events and we were talking about the results.

But always respect the photographers out there trying to make a living working and make sure you don't get in their way if you do get some trackside access.

[Chevelle Rob]

those are real nice cars

[Eric Williams]

how do you guys get it?and does it cost you?i cant get those awesome shots you guys do from the stands or behind the fence.anyone going to immokalee this weekend.i will be there on saturday trying to figure out this photo thing,lol.

thanks,jeff
Jeff MoparVic is a member here, he works at Immokalee. Send him a pm, I'm sure he can help you.

[little duece coupe]

thanks guys,i am not trying to sell any pics,nor do i want to get in anyones way.i have been around the dragstrip for 30+ yrs and know how to stay out of the way.

[Darling]

X 2 on what Kelly said. And no,you can't buy that kind of pass, you have to pay your dues and earn it. Start at your local track and work from there.

Agreed.... Gotta work your way in. Call the promoter/track owner in advance and requst press credentials. You'll have to give the publication/company that you're shooting for and expect them to verify it. You can all but FORGET getting NHRA credentials, I've received those ONCE and to be honest, I hated be out there. Loneliest place in the world.

[Lonnie Gautreau]

kelly said it great, but it also not people selling pics over the top of us, but also Giving photos away for free!

my op is pretty much the same as Kellys, except no one gets in the way of my shots lol, theres always a way to get the shot! lol

[Darling]

kelly said it great, but it also not people selling pics over the top of us, but also Giving photos away for free!

my op is pretty much the same as Kellys, except no one gets in the way of my shots lol, theres always a way to get the shot! lol


You're not the one out there moving all around, jumping in front of us at the last minute are you????:-D

That guy gets on my last damn nerve

[davs5.0]

Lonnie; I agree with what you're saying but I approach it a bit different. I usually only take pics of my friends cars but I've also shown my friends the pics I've taken and some of them are pretty good or capture something that the track pro missed. If thats the case, I bring my card to the pro and let them print it for $$ so my buddy can have his pic right away or at a bigger size than I can print. 99% of my pics are for my personal enjoyment.

[kelly andersen]

kelly said it great, but it also not people selling pics over the top of us, but also Giving photos away for free!

my op is pretty much the same as Kellys, except no one gets in the way of my shots lol, theres always a way to get the shot! lolLOL I think we moved a few people at Orlando!!!!

[kelly andersen]

Lonnie; I agree with what you're saying but I approach it a bit different. I usually only take pics of my friends cars but I've also shown my friends the pics I've taken and some of them are pretty good or capture something that the track pro missed. If thats the case, I bring my card to the pro and let them print it for $$ so my buddy can have his pic right away or at a bigger size than I can print. 99% of my pics are for my personal enjoyment.Giving a friend a pic of his car is not a problem, It's the guy that goes around to all the pits handing out cards and trying to sell pic's. We had some assclown at byron doing this from the stands and then trying to sell them when Rick the track photog. is trying to make a living, not cool. I occasionally give pic's away to some friends, but I dont sell them either, It's a major pain in the ass to sell them also.

[kelly andersen]

thanks guys,i am not trying to sell any pics,nor do i want to get in anyones way.i have been around the dragstrip for 30+ yrs and know how to stay out of the way.I wasnt saying you'd be in the way, it was a generalization, Lonnie, myself,John fore, Chris Simmons and myself were in Orlando this year and it was a major pain in the ass with all the guys that show up from god knows where, you spend the first day telling people to get the hell out of the way, some people just have no track courtesy, thats why I bring a 3 step ladder LOL

[Darling]

WHOMEVER that gentleman was at Bowling Green that kept jumping around infront of all of us trying to work came real close to getting my shoe up his ass....

I HATE when new photographers come out and have zero track courtesy.

[DragRacingTV.com]

thanks guys,i am not trying to sell any pics,nor do i want to get in anyones way.i have been around the dragstrip for 30+ yrs and know how to stay out of the way.

you probably know the track photogs already... one thing that helps for trackside etiquette is to kind of stand back until the last second, let the track photog and the magazine guys step in to where they want to stand first, then dive in to an open slot yourself at the last second... if somebody looks like they want your spot, offer to move over, and ALWAYS keep an eye out over your shoulder, in case you are blocking a shot from a ladder or something.

as far as getting your foot in the door, start out with the smallest track you can find, it's usually easier to get access... the photographer who has track rights at my local track prints pictures there, so he lets people come in to take photos, and sell 'em at his booth for a percentage... you won't make any money, but it's a good way to get experience, and build up a portfolio.

put your best shots online, so that you have a place to refer to when you are asking for media credentials at an event... the people who sell photos shotgun everything they have online, but for the purposes of getting established, it might be better to fashion your website as a place to go to for event coverage... put up race results, a little text, etc., for that small local track.

[Darling]

one thing that helps for trackside etiquette is to kind of stand back until the last second, let the track photog and the magazine guys step in to where they want to stand first, then dive in to an open slot yourself at the last second...

Were you at Bowling Green?????!!!????

[Kelly Pelrine]

WHOMEVER that gentleman was at Bowling Green that kept jumping around infront of all of us trying to work came real close to getting my shoe up his ass....

I HATE when new photographers come out and have zero track courtesy.
LOL... i think i know who you're talking about, i have quite a few shots with someone in them, so does Donut. But hes not "new" to this, which is what kinda pissed me off.

[Darling]

Yep - that would be the guy.... fucker kept jumping in at the last minute, scares ya to death cuz all you can see is that movement out of the side of the cam and reflexes kick in, You jerk, miss the shot and the dude is gone before you can kick the shit out of him.


UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[little duece coupe]

i know about the ladder thing and i'm sure i have each of you in pictures i took a orlando this past year.lol

i understand everyonesfeelings on this subject.

[Jimmy Biggs]

You gotta get credentials? :confused:

[little duece coupe]

thats alright.i have just seen so many more photo guys down there lately i thought they couldnt all be pros,but i see i was wrong.

[Kelly Pelrine]

Yep - that would be the guy.... fucker kept jumping in at the last minute, scares ya to death cuz all you can see is that movement out of the side of the cam and reflexes kick in, You jerk, miss the shot and the dude is gone before you can kick the shit out of him.


UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Hehe yup! At first id try to move but then hed move too argghh. After that i just said phuck it and shot anyway, hoping to maybe get a few that were decent. Oh im so tempted to post a few pics :smt077 But ill be good!

[Darling]

LOL - maybe you better not post any pics, maybe he'll read this thread and get a clue.

[Kelly Pelrine]

Yea no need to post any, i think Donut did anyway haha.

[Darling]

Ohhhhh WHERE

[Donut]

There were a lot of them at BG - who in particular are you guys talking about, though. I think I have an idea.

[DragRacingTV.com]

WHOMEVER that gentleman was at Bowling Green that kept jumping around infront of all of us trying to work came real close to getting my shoe up his ass....

"jumping infront" of somebody is NOT the same thing as stepping into an open spot in the lineup, lol

the only way that somebody can get in your shot is if you are standing back too far from the k-rail, or they are laying on top of it... most tracks won't let people get on the k-rail, for safety reasons.

[Darling]

Thanks hun, but Kelly and Donut know what and who I'm talking about. Maybe they can explain it better

[Donut]

"jumping infront" of somebody is NOT the same thing as stepping into an open spot in the lineup, lol

the only way that somebody can get in your shot is if you are standing back too far from the k-rail, or they are laying on top of it... most tracks won't let people get on the k-rail, for safety reasons.

Bowling Green is kind of like Reynolds in it's wall setup - where we stand it's elevated to almost to the height of the top of the wall.

Plus, people lean over the wall all the time, too.

[Kelly Pelrine]

"jumping infront" of somebody is NOT the same thing as stepping into an open spot in the lineup, lol

the only way that somebody can get in your shot is if you are standing back too far from the k-rail, or they are laying on top of it... most tracks won't let people get on the k-rail, for safety reasons.

True on the first thing.... but on the 2nd, it really depends on which track you're at and how its set up.

[kelly andersen]

"jumping infront" of somebody is NOT the same thing as stepping into an open spot in the lineup, lol

the only way that somebody can get in your shot is if you are standing back too far from the k-rail, or they are laying on top of it... most tracks won't let people get on the k-rail, for safety reasons.I can give you 15 guys that will tell you are wrong, nothing worse than a guy who comes and stands 2 feet in front of you and then bends over or keeps backing up closer to you, have you ever tried shooting around a guy who's over 6'???. come to Orlando next year and I'll show you a reason to rethink your statement !!!!!!!

[Kelly Pelrine]

I can give you 15 guys that will tell you are wrong, nothing worse than a guy who comes and stands 2 feet in front of you and then bends over or keeps backing up closer to you, have you ever tried shooting around a guy who's over 6'???. come to Orlando next year and I'll show you a reason to rethink your statement !!!!!!!
Me personally i like the good old "elbow throw". ahh can ya hear the sarcasam? :-D

Maybe we need to start a thread called "what NOT to do on the wall" lol......not that anyone should have to be told this crap!

[Donut]

Me personally i like the good old "elbow throw". ahh can ya hear the sarcasam? :-D



But you can get away with it. Just flash your cute smile, and say "Sorry Hon!" and your golden.

[Darling]

Hahahaha now THAT would be a good thread

[Kelly Pelrine]

But you can get away with it. Just flash your cute smile, and say "Sorry Hon!" and your golden.
I didnt mean i do that haha! I always shoot with my arms down.... even with the Bigma ugh! ;)

[camaroguy327]

You all shoot through the view finder or through the screen when working the wall? I'm forced to use the screen in most cases do to my glasses, I cant see the entire viewfinder, so I have no idea if I've got the entire car in the shot.

[Darling]

Viewfinder with a quick glance at the screen

[Kelly Pelrine]

You all shoot through the view finder or through the screen when working the wall? I'm forced to use the screen in most cases do to my glasses, I cant see the entire viewfinder, so I have no idea if I've got the entire car in the shot.
Viewfinder always. I agree its hard to shoot in glasses. I usually pop my contacts in when im gonna shoot. The one time i did wear sunglasses though it saved my eye. Someone kicked up some rocks and damned if they didnt scratch my brand new Oakleys lol! But at least my eye was ok :p I dunno how some of the guys shoot with sunglasses on, its too weird for me.

[Donut]

The one time i did wear sunglasses though it saved my eye. Someone kicked up some rocks and damned if they didnt scratch my brand new Oakleys lol! But at least my eye was ok :p I dunno how some of the guys shoot with sunglasses on, its too weird for me.

I try to always wear glasses at the track for EXACTLY that reason. What's funny though, is I never wear my prescription glasses at the track. Speaking of which, I need to find my Vedalos.

Oh, and they make eyepiece extenders for people with glasses. I think KJ even has his prescription built right into his eyepiece. But I don't use an eyecup at all. I lost it in Bowling Green in 2007 and haven't gotten around to replacing it, since it seems to work better that way with glasses on.

[DragRacingTV.com]

I can give you 15 guys that will tell you are wrong, nothing worse than a guy who comes and stands 2 feet in front of you and then bends over or keeps backing up closer to you, have you ever tried shooting around a guy who's over 6'???. come to Orlando next year and I'll show you a reason to rethink your statement !!!!!!!

oh please, no more drama :-D and april... have you ever worked a really big event before, sweetheart? you are whining about one guy, try shooting video with over 50 media people riding the rail... here is what i have to deal with every year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6cTrr5ODq8

back in the '90's, when import racing was huge out here, i used to shoot on an elevated trackside area that was the same height as the wall, it was a problem.

[camaroguy327]

Viewfinder always. I agree its hard to shoot in glasses. I usually pop my contacts in when im gonna shoot. The one time i did wear sunglasses though it saved my eye. Someone kicked up some rocks and damned if they didnt scratch my brand new Oakleys lol! But at least my eye was ok :p I dunno how some of the guys shoot with sunglasses on, its too weird for me.

I wish I could wear contacts but I cant get through the thought of sticking something in my eye. lol

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

LOL... i think i know who you're talking about, i have quite a few shots with someone in them, so does Donut. But hes not "new" to this, which is what kinda pissed me off. I got a feeling I know this guy also, don't be afraid to tell him to back the phuck off ! There's room enough ther for everyone. I'm thinkin his first name is Dave but, I could be wrong.

[Donut]

oh please, no more drama :-D and april... have you ever worked a really big event before, sweetheart? you are whining about one guy, try shooting video with over 50 media people riding the rail... here is what i have to deal with every year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6cTrr5ODq8


Move further down the wall? That's what most of the video guys I know do. They are usually way past the 330' mark.

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

oh please, no more drama :-D and april... have you ever worked a really big event before, sweetheart? you are whining about one guy, try shooting video with over 50 media people riding the rail... here is what i have to deal with every year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6cTrr5ODq8

back in the '90's, when import racing was huge out here, i used to shoot on an elevated trackside area that was the same height as the wall, it was a problem. I've shot more NHRA Nat'l events than I care to remember but, the absolute worse.......
















The U.S. Nationals.....wall to wall.......elbow to elbow. a phucking zoo, in more ways than one. And I know almost everyone on the starting line.

[Nitroimage]

If it ever gets this bad along my favorite guard rail, I am done :o

http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/reuters/20080824/09/2828813681.jpg

[camaroguy327]

Talk about a pain in the ass to get an original shot, lol.

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

What these pros have said is absolutely true but asking doesn't hurt. I was at the Super Chevy Show at Norwalk this year and asked the guy running the lanes if he could find out who i could ask to get out in front of the starting line. An extremely professional and nice woman came over and asked what I wanted. I explained to her that I wanted to take some pics of my friends cars. She went right over to the security guys and made sure I had access out with the pros. Got some amazing shots and one of the drivers I went with even asked if we could take some shots after racing was done for the day. The Norwalk people were amazing and I got some once in a lifetime shots.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x132/crewchief69/IMG_0718.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x132/crewchief69/IMG_0755.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x132/crewchief69/IMG_0727.jpg

And Outlaw Photo, I believe I've chatted with you a couple times at Milan. If I'm correct you were trying out a monster lens at one of the Milan Heads Up events and we were talking about the results.

But always respect the photographers out there trying to make a living working and make sure you don't get in their way if you do get some trackside access. Yep. you could be correct, I was trying out Canon's 500mm 2.8 , what a friggin BEAST ! But the images are incrediable.


Also, if I may, a little tip on your work here. The three cars in the lanes, if you would have stood in front of them (ie;45degrees from the lead car) and got on a ladder the shot would have been killer.

On the pics on the track, try to get the cars closer together and again, elevate yourself as much as poss.

Not to take anything away from you,you did a good job and the pics look nice but, you had the time and with a little set-up they could have been a lot better.

One more tip, background , background , background.

[Darling]

Um yes smartass, I have shot a national event. I already posted that I absolutely hated it too.

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

Um yes smartass, I have shot a national event. I already posted that I absolutely hated it too. I hope this isn't directed to me. :(

[Darling]

Nooooooo, I said it to that 'dragracingtv' guy, whoever he is

[DragRacingTV.com]

Move further down the wall? That's what most of the video guys I know do. They are usually way past the 330' mark.

thats what i do... one of the two guys behind me was a track employee, nobody could go past him, so i was at the limit.

i recently heard that the nhra had some kind of recommendation about limiting people to the 330'? some tracks won't let you go past the farking tree.

[davs5.0]

Yep. you could be correct, I was trying out Canon's 500mm 2.8 , what a friggin BEAST ! But the images are incrediable.


Also, if I may, a little tip on your work here. The three cars in the lanes, if you would have stood in front of them (ie;45degrees from the lead car) and got on a ladder the shot would have been killer.

On the pics on the track, try to get the cars closer together and again, elevate yourself as much as poss.

Not to take anything away from you,you did a good job and the pics look nice but, you had the time and with a little set-up they could have been a lot better.

One more tip, background , background , background.

I wish I had thought of these things. Ladder would have been a great idea if I had one. The next time I get this chance, I'll definately try that. Unfortunatly the background wasn't much in my control.
They did give me the chance to shoot out there but track workers had to do their prep and cleanup and I was just shooting with what I had in the bag. No really long lens (yet).

Just a hastily thrown together effort. I wil definatly remember the tips and incorporate them into my shotting memory.

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

Nooooooo, I said it to that 'dragracingtv' guy, whoever he is:p:p:p

[kelly andersen]

oh please, no more drama :-D and april... have you ever worked a really big event before, sweetheart? you are whining about one guy, try shooting video with over 50 media people riding the rail... here is what i have to deal with every year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6cTrr5ODq8

back in the '90's, when import racing was huge out here, i used to shoot on an elevated trackside area that was the same height as the wall, it was a problem.You want drama??? Step in front of me and you'll get plenty, I spent to long being nice to idiots that dont have a clue how to act on the line. I ask once nicely now, you do it again things get ugly. I spend to much time flying and driving to races to have some people walk up and horn theyre way in. people dont follow the rules they learn the hard way.

[kelly andersen]

oh please, no more drama :-D and april... have you ever worked a really big event before, sweetheart? you are whining about one guy, try shooting video with over 50 media people riding the rail... here is what i have to deal with every year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6cTrr5ODq8

back in the '90's, when import racing was huge out here, i used to shoot on an elevated trackside area that was the same height as the wall, it was a problem.Whats your point???? Your video is exactly what we were talking about and you said it is ok to fill an empty spot. Video people are the worst offenders, you cant stay in one spot, you guys are always running back and forth and jumping in front of people. Video people need to follow people like Sean Melton from urban hill billy for a day and learn how to do a professional job without trying to be a track star or gymnast. Sweetheart, thats some funny shit right there.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[kelly andersen]

Nooooooo, I said it to that 'dragracingtv' guy, whoever he isHe's been around sweetheart LOL, just ask him. I have never heard of them either, but evidently he has done it all longer and harder than all us. LOL He says its ok to horn in an open spot and then bitchs about somebody who's in his way. To stupid to bring a ladder.

[DragRacingTV.com]

You want drama??? Step in front of me and you'll get plenty

now there is a good attitude to take to a big event :rolleyes:

[DragRacingTV.com]

He's been around sweetheart LOL, just ask him. I have never heard of them either, but evidently he has done it all longer and harder than all us. LOL He says its ok to horn in an open spot and then bitchs about somebody who's in his way. To stupid to bring a ladder.

let me get this straight... you told us that you brought a ladder to orlando, but you still felt compelled to "move a lot of people", and you were "telling people to get the hell out of the way" there?

[kelly andersen]

let me get this straight... you told us that you brought a ladder to orlando, but you still felt compelled to "move a lot of people", and you were "telling people to get the hell out of the way" there?Who said get the hell out of the way ???? We stick together, if somebody is being in everybodys way you ask them to move, you obviously werent smart enough to do it from the looks of the people in the way in your video. If you have the time and the money to let people stand in front of your shots thats your deal. If you want to be a moron and argue with go to the political section, sounds like most in this thread dont care what you think.

[Darling]

Sweetheart, thats some funny shit right there.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


You should have seen the look on my face when I read it..... Priceless I'm sure

[Darling]

Who said get the hell out of the way ???? We stick together, if somebody is being in everybodys way you ask them to move, you obviously werent smart enough to do it from the looks of the people in the way in your video. If you have the time and the money to let people stand in front of your shots thats your deal. If you want to be a moron and argue with go to the political section, sounds like most in this thread dont care what you think.

To Mr DragRacingTV:

I agree with Kelly. We are all out there for the same reason. There is absolutely no room for bullshit when there are two 2000+HP cars doing burnouts and racing mere FEET from us. It's way TOO dangerous for us to be inconsiderate of others. Except for the Moron jumping in and out of shots in BG, we ALL.... and I mean everyone of us... have professional courtesy and respect for one another at every track we go to. We know who works for whom, and question where someone is if they AREN'T there, and have no qualms about picking up the cellphone and calling them to see if they are gonna get their ass down to the line and work a little bit, so they don't miss any shots.

Quite frankly, I have no clue who you are, have never seen your work and could care less about your opinion until I see/hear different

[Kelly Pelrine]

Yikes this took a turn for the worse lol. I was just giving a little ribbing to the dude at BG. I do agree that everyone out on the line professional or not should conduct themselves in a professional manner, and yes sometimes its a major PITA with a ton of people out there but it shouldnt have to come to blows. But damn skippy ill be shooting THAT if the fists go flying hahaha :-D

April makes a very good point, we are out there where it is not safe you never know when/where something will go wrong and i always keep that in mind first. Any drama out there is a distraction and should be removed from the line.

[DragRacingTV.com]

Who said get the hell out of the way ????

um, you did! if you can't handle a dozen people trackside at orlando without busting a blood vessel, how long would you last at the march meet?

...you spend the first day telling people to get the hell out of the way, some people just have no track courtesy, thats why I bring a 3 step ladder LOL

and april... my exact words were "...ALWAYS keep an eye out over your shoulder, in case you are blocking a shot from a ladder or something."

despite that, you attack me with this lying accusation that i'm somebody from bg that is blocking shots?? talk about drama, i bet that you bring it to the line just like you did there.

[Darling]

Oh give me a break, I never insinuated that you were that person... I simply asked if you were there. We all get along perfectly fine. Perhaps it's you causing the drama?

[brucelee]

My only request is that the next time I'm at a race some of you guys and girls get out of my shot while I am shooting from the stands. Thank you.

:D

[kelly andersen]

um, you did! if you can't handle a dozen people trackside at orlando without busting a blood vessel, how long would you last at the march meet?



and april... my exact words were "...ALWAYS keep an eye out over your shoulder, in case you are blocking a shot from a ladder or something."

despite that, you attack me with this lying accusation that i'm somebody from bg that is blocking shots?? talk about drama, i bet that you bring it to the line just like you did there.This isnt worth making enemies over, I guess I took it wrong when you said its ok to grab an open spot, most people have track courtesy, but alot dont have a clue and horn in where there isnt enough room and then move back and forth or bend over in front of you getting in your shot. I usually ask them to watch what they are doing and if it keeps up I get a little loud, if they dont get the picture by then there is no hope for them. Your March meet isnt squat either (said respectfully) You should come to some of the tracks down south April and Myself have been to, literally 400-500 people on the line and the only way your gonna get a pic. is if your standing on the track, all you can see is the front od the cars through the sea of people. Lets just agree to disagree on stuff and carry on from there.:cool::cool::cool:

[Top Fuel Photos]

Well said Kelly:)

[DragRacingTV.com]

Your March meet isnt squat either (said respectfully) You should come to some of the tracks down south April and Myself have been to, literally 400-500 people on the line and the only way your gonna get a pic. is if your standing on the track, all you can see is the front od the cars through the sea of people. Lets just agree to disagree on stuff and carry on from there.:cool::cool::cool:

that's fine with me, but please understand that from my perspective, it's been difficult to listen to you and april bragging about all of this alleged starting line experience, when you all don't even have websites... heck, this is "april bryant" under google images, i truly can't find a car pic that she took anywhere:
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:GUXcewMDgh5FIM:http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/jeffco/news_images/da_news/april_bryant.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/jeffco/news_images/da_news/april_bryant.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/news/news_item_T3_R546.htm&usg=__N2ruVuj1pzdDTk878uIALbqNfUY=&h=137&w=109&sz=21&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=GUXcewMDgh5FIM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dapril%2Bbryant%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26c lient%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=xMw&q=april%20bryant&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

now i'm making a joke here, o.k.? :-D obviously that's not her, it's some other april bryant from colorado, but you get the point? i gotta dig to even find pictures that kelly andersen took!

i'm sure that you guys have a local following back there somewhere, and i like the few kelly andersen pics that i've been able to locate... here is a pretty cool shot of yours, it looks sharp the entire length of the car:
http://dragcoverage.com/Attach/wsc1_2008_175.jpg

[Darling]

Go to hardcore50.com to see my early stuff. After that, you can go on the event photography site for FFW, NMRA, NMCA couple of ORSCA events, I can give you a list of mags that I've written/shot for, but I'm not even going to that trouble.


But the 1st thing that needs to be addressed is... Who are you and where is YOUR work?

[kelly andersen]

that's fine with me, but please understand that from my perspective, it's been difficult to listen to you and april bragging about all of this alleged starting line experience, when you all don't even have websites... heck, this is "april bryant" under google images, i truly can't find a car pic that she took anywhere:
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:GUXcewMDgh5FIM:http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/jeffco/news_images/da_news/april_bryant.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/jeffco/news_images/da_news/april_bryant.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.co.jefferson.co.us/news/news_item_T3_R546.htm&usg=__N2ruVuj1pzdDTk878uIALbqNfUY=&h=137&w=109&sz=21&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=GUXcewMDgh5FIM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dapril%2Bbryant%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26c lient%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN)
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=xMw&q=april%20bryant&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

now i'm making a joke here, o.k.? :-D obviously that's not her, it's some other april bryant from colorado, but you get the point? i gotta dig to even find pictures that kelly andersen took!

i'm sure that you guys have a local following back there somewhere, and i like the few kelly andersen pics that i've been able to locate... here is a pretty cool shot of yours, it looks sharp the entire length of the car:
http://dragcoverage.com/Attach/wsc1_2008_175.jpgYour a piece of work!!!! Who the fuck was bragging???? You must not be looking very hard then, I've been shooting for drag Illustrated since it started and had stuff in fastest streetcar also, drag racing online before that, I worked for snoweek which was the biggest snowmobile magazine out until it was bought out and I also post stuff for Drag coverage.com also and I shoot for VSCA magazine which is the biggest vintage snowmoblie magazine in the world. I also shot for cycle news and covered professional supercross and motocross for 10 years. Its not bragging it's just a fact!!!! Heres our perspective on it, I looked at your little piss ant website and saw your 4th grade commentary on some of the cars you had pic's of. Your just another assclown with a walmart camcorder. Most of us probably cover more races in a month than you do all year !!! Keep in mind we tried to drop all this petty bullshit but you had to keep running your mouth, why dont you take you litte hand held camcorder and go back where you came from!!!!!!!!

[kelly andersen]

Go to hardcore50.com to see my early stuff. After that, you can go on the event photography site for FFW, NMRA, NMCA couple of ORSCA events, I can give you a list of mags that I've written/shot for, but I'm not even going to that trouble.


But the 1st thing that needs to be addressed is... Who are you and where is YOUR work?Heres his world famous site April http://www.dragracingtv.com/, Half the links on it dont even work. It looks like he's been doing it a whole whopping three years. He's just someone with a camcorder who begged his way onto the track. But he shoots events that have 50+ people standing on the rail such as the US nationals LOL yeah right. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with this little wannabe piss ant anymore. This was starting to be a good forums till boy wonder started causing trouble.

[Darling]

Heres his world famous site April http://www.dragracingtv.com/, Half the links on it dont even work. It looks like he's been doing it a whole whopping three years. He's just someone with a camcorder who begged his way onto the track. But he shoots events that have 50+ people standing on the rail such as the US nationals LOL yeah right. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with this little wannabe piss ant anymore. This was starting to be a good forums till boy wonder started causing trouble.

He'll go away - he's too weak to stay here for very much longer. You gotta love it when people like this surface, Legends in thier OWN minds.

[Darling]

Heres his world famous site April http://www.dragracingtv.com/, Half the links on it dont even work. It looks like he's been doing it a whole whopping three years. He's just someone with a camcorder who begged his way onto the track. But he shoots events that have 50+ people standing on the rail such as the US nationals LOL yeah right. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with this little wannabe piss ant anymore. This was starting to be a good forums till boy wonder started causing trouble.

HEY - you didn't call me "Sweetheart" - wtf... I thought that was my new tradename, LOL

[davs5.0]

Kelly Anderson; I noticed you take a lot of snowmobile pics from one of your posts. I love snowmobiling and always bring along a point and shoot camera whenever I go out on the sled. I'd love to take the big camera along for some better pics but the thought of all the cold and possible moisture getting into the body has scared me off of it.

What do you do to keep the gear from getting frosted up and how do you avoid moisture from getting inside everything when you get back into a warm enviroment?

[oldsloGTO]

and a Bit off topic, but do you have any pics of a merc sno twister? I had one years ago , and got outa sleds for a while. my only one left is a 86 jag 440.
love this board , well with out the drama!

[kelly andersen]

Kelly Anderson; I noticed you take a lot of snowmobile pics from one of your posts. I love snowmobiling and always bring along a point and shoot camera whenever I go out on the sled. I'd love to take the big camera along for some better pics but the thought of all the cold and possible moisture getting into the body has scared me off of it.

What do you do to keep the gear from getting frosted up and how do you avoid moisture from getting inside everything when you get back into a warm enviroment?Your ok outside and inside, it will fog up but it wont hurt it any. Now if you get it wet( rain and snow on it, it may cause problems. My cameras go thru hell and I've never had a problem with them. go for it and take the big one along and post up the pic's when your done!!!

[kelly andersen]

and a Bit off topic, but do you have any pics of a merc sno twister? I had one years ago , and got outa sleds for a while. my only one left is a 86 jag 440.
love this board , well with out the drama!I have pic's of every sled known to man LOL I just spent three days at the Eagle River Vintage world championships WhichI'm proud to say a friend of mine won the 440 liquid world championship. I will get some pic's up soon, I'm just waiting for my new computer to arrive. Merc's were screaming fast this year and still took quite a feww classes,I'm looking for one or an srx to get back into racing. Oh, and there was no drama here until Mr. I've done it all tv showed up and started flapping his gums. rofflmao :-D:-D:-D

[DragRacingTV.com]

Your a piece of work!!!! Who the fuck was bragging???? You must not be looking very hard then, I've been shooting for drag Illustrated since it started and had stuff in fastest streetcar also!!!

>snip<

thanks for the 4-1-1, lol

i'll be sure and not ask where any of your pics are in the future ;-)

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

Go to hardcore50.com to see my early stuff. After that, you can go on the event photography site for FFW, NMRA, NMCA couple of ORSCA events, I can give you a list of mags that I've written/shot for, but I'm not even going to that trouble.


But the 1st thing that needs to be addressed is... Who are you and where is YOUR work? Darling,have you ever been to Milan ? Just curious.

[Darling]

Darling,have you ever been to Milan ? Just curious.

Nope, not yet. This year will be my first.

[OUTLAW PHOTO]

Nope, not yet. This year will be my first.
With all the groups you have shot for I thought maybe we have met. It looks like we will. :p